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Old 7th Aug 2022, 01:50
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Originally Posted by aussieflyboy View Post
If youíre a QF Group Jet Captain (except maybe Network) the point where you Ďbreak evení is somewhere between 12-18 years. Itís very variable and obviously difficult to calculate. Itís also very personal as you could pay more off your home/personal debt by staying as a Capt which compounds over time as does the extra super your would earn by staying a Capt.
I don't think 12-18 years is an accurate assessment. A short-haul FO will earn more than a Captain at NJS while still maintaining life at home simply because of the type of flying. Good luck getting into overtime by bouncing between MEL and CBR on the 717. I have seen rosters of 140 hours of duty for base salary at NJS...no thank you. Depending on when a command comes about at mainline, the career earnings will significantly diverge at that point. Not to mention the QOL in the meantime. If you have at least 20 years left, going to mainline would be a no-brainer, but each to their own.
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Old 7th Aug 2022, 03:02
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Could someone please confirm that the Qantas Long Haul EBA Clause 32.7 (new hire SO lower pay) hasn't taken effect yet?
When does it start?

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Old 7th Aug 2022, 07:42
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Originally Posted by aussiepilot View Post
Could someone please confirm that the Qantas Long Haul EBA Clause 32.7 (new hire SO lower pay) hasn't taken effect yet?
When does it start?

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Comes into effect once they start recruiting into the 330/350SFF category for SOs. Hasnít happened yet, and the 350 isnít coming for 3 more years so could still have some substantial recruitment without the new category coming in, but that doesnít preclude the company from introducing it in the interim anytime they see fit to.
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Old 7th Aug 2022, 08:51
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Originally Posted by aussiepilot View Post
Could someone please confirm that the Qantas Long Haul EBA Clause 32.7 (new hire SO lower pay) hasn't taken effect yet?
When does it start?

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Have it on good authority it won't be occurring till they actually have a date set for the first aircraft arrival.
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Old 7th Aug 2022, 09:41
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Originally Posted by Jimsaviation View Post
I don't think 12-18 years is an accurate assessment. A short-haul FO will earn more than a Captain at NJS while still maintaining life at home simply because of the type of flying. Good luck getting into overtime by bouncing between MEL and CBR on the 717. I have seen rosters of 140 hours of duty for base salary at NJS...no thank you. Depending on when a command comes about at mainline, the career earnings will significantly diverge at that point. Not to mention the QOL in the meantime. If you have at least 20 years left, going to mainline would be a no-brainer, but each to their own.
What is the short haul FO base pay? Genuine question.
I only ever get answers of what could be earnt with various inclusions and assumptions, but never bare bones - I dont want to work hard - basic base pay.
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Old 7th Aug 2022, 10:00
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Originally Posted by Lapon View Post
What is the short haul FO base pay? Genuine question.
I only ever get answers of what could be earnt with various inclusions and assumptions, but never bare bones - I dont want to work hard - basic base pay.
Its generally between 150 - 190 depending on how much you work. Yes some make more, but they have no life. An NJS Capt is on $199k and their goal is to work as little as possible (overtime threshold is high). Average flight hours for them is around 55-60 per month.
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Old 8th Aug 2022, 01:14
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Also curious on how much you earn on initial employment, not only as an SO but also while in training
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Old 8th Aug 2022, 01:55
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Originally Posted by NOT PHASED View Post
Also curious on how much you earn on initial employment, not only as an SO but also while in training
787/330 SOís are earning anywhere between 160-200k at the moment.

Initial training expect 55-60k and at the current rate itís about 6 months until check out.
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Old 8th Aug 2022, 02:48
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Originally Posted by Fujiroll76 View Post
787/330 SOís are earning anywhere between 160-200k at the moment.

Initial training expect 55-60k and at the current rate itís about 6 months until check out.
Is this base or are you including allowances? Obviously if your overseas you need to spend money.
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Old 8th Aug 2022, 03:05
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Originally Posted by Fujiroll76 View Post
787/330 SOís are earning anywhere between 160-200k at the moment.

Initial training expect 55-60k and at the current rate itís about 6 months until check out.
Are you referring to 60k for the 6 months? Or an equivalent of 60k/year training salary?
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Old 8th Aug 2022, 05:35
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$8,049.64 per 56 day bid period - straight from the EBA

~$52,500 per year
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Old 8th Aug 2022, 05:39
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Thanks, and if youíre training away from your home base are there allowances on top of this?
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Old 8th Aug 2022, 05:46
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Originally Posted by NOT PHASED View Post
Thanks, and if youíre training away from your home base are there allowances on top of this?
Yes - keep in mind 80% of next years recruitment is forecast SYD 330.
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Old 8th Aug 2022, 08:50
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Originally Posted by aussieflyboy View Post
Is this base or are you including allowances? Obviously if your overseas you need to spend money.
$160k is base.
Bare in mind we are all working 175hrs divisors (30hrs above MGH)
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Old 9th Aug 2022, 01:05
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Originally Posted by Fujiroll76 View Post
$160k is base.
Bare in mind we are all working 175hrs divisors (30hrs above MGH)
Is 30hrs above MGH the same as 30 hours overtime in other EBA currencies?
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Old 9th Aug 2022, 04:06
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Originally Posted by Lapon View Post
Is 30hrs above MGH the same as 30 hours overtime in other EBA currencies?
Its 30hrs at the hourly rate. Overtime comes into play when assigned a trip that takes you over divisor +5hrs.
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Old 9th Aug 2022, 06:32
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Future Pilot q's

Hi All,

Currently in HS pursuing an RAAus RPC (0.7hrs solo), and have a few questions:

1. Have any QGPA graduates made it to Q-link yet? If not, when can that expect to start?
2. After finishing my RPC, is it worth converting it to a CASA RPL just for the purposes of applying to the academy (as they may prefer a CASA license)?
3. If you complete an aviation degree program with a QFPP school, and do the practical flying on the weekend with a non-integrated school, can you still be considered for the QFPP

Now before you all start complaining about cadet programs, I will say that I am fully aware of the traditional process (going up north ect..), and will do that if I am not accepted to a cadet program. Just curious about options to expedite the process.

Thanks
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Old 9th Aug 2022, 13:46
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Originally Posted by ockett View Post
Hi All,

Currently in HS pursuing an RAAus RPC (0.7hrs solo), and have a few questions:

1. Have any QGPA graduates made it to Q-link yet? If not, when can that expect to start?
2. After finishing my RPC, is it worth converting it to a CASA RPL just for the purposes of applying to the academy (as they may prefer a CASA license)?
3. If you complete an aviation degree program with a QFPP school, and do the practical flying on the weekend with a non-integrated school, can you still be considered for the QFPP

Now before you all start complaining about cadet programs, I will say that I am fully aware of the traditional process (going up north ect..), and will do that if I am not accepted to a cadet program. Just curious about options to expedite the process.

Thanks
The problem with the program youíre talking about is that as I understand it, itís not a cadet program at all. Whether you like them or hate them a traditional cadet program would give the cadet a leg up and generally seniority from an early age.

By the sounds of the academy program you pay over market rate to go to a Qantas branded school, but it doesnít gain you an advantage. If you do happen to get into a subsidiary, youíll then have the often discussed issues of getting released by the subsidiary should you pass selection by mainline.

Getting your 1500 hours and heading over to the states is your best bet, once you have experience you can apply to mainline directly, and if that doesnít pan out or your plans change you have started on the best alternative path (some would say itís a better path than any offered in Australia)
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Old 9th Aug 2022, 20:22
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[QUOTE=The Love Doctor;11275578]
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Hi All,

Currently in HS pursuing an RAAus RPC (0.7hrs solo), /QUOTE]

For the benefit of all airline pilots, please do not consider applying to any airline with (regardless of cadetships etc) only "0.7 solo so far". I say this with the best of intentions and for the betterment of the industry
what a w**ker. Guys just starting out hoping to get info from people in the industry and gets a response like that. I think half of the problem with the industry is people like you.
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Old 9th Aug 2022, 20:57
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The best way to get a gig for Qantas is to not be employed by Qantas (subsidies) proven time and time again.

Just ask the poor bastards who interviewed back in 2018 and have only just started. Understanding there was a COVID blackout but that didnít help their seniority get blasted 300 spots.

Not to mention those who didnít even get a look in.
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