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A DEBATE THAT MUST BE HAD

Old 25th Mar 2020, 03:20
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A DEBATE THAT MUST BE HAD

This is a good read and offers some challenging views!

https://www.michaelwest.com.au/the-c...-shareholders/
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Not one more cent. Not even one.
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Old 25th Mar 2020, 03:42
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Snouts in the trough - Lobbying beyond belief and all designed to be hidden from the masses.

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Old 25th Mar 2020, 04:02
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Let it go bankrupt, nationalise it and save the employees. Owners and managers can shove off.

I seriously want the government to help all employees nationwide, but there has to be a harsh quid pro quo for executives...no bonuses for ten years or until any aid is repaid. No share buy-backs ever again. Etc.
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The author's point is irrelevant. QF have exactly the same private lounge setup. The question for the government is, do they want 10 000+ people made unemployed and have an entire country beholden to QF if it comes down to some form of Government Support?

The only solution to the ensuing monopoly will be to declare Open Skies. However if you hold a Chairman's Lounge Membership will you be really willing to vote for Open Skies domestically?
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Let it go bankrupt, nationalise it and save the employees. Owners and managers can shove off.

I seriously want the government to help all employees nationwide, but there has to be a harsh quid pro quo for executives...no bonuses for ten years or until any aid is repaid. No share buy-backs ever again. Etc.
Well put, Australopithecus.
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Old 25th Mar 2020, 04:23
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The author's point is irrelevant. QF have exactly the same private lounge setup.
Of course they do. Where do you think JB got the idea from?
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Old 25th Mar 2020, 04:38
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Yeah, lounges are another thing. In what ethical universe is it ok for politicians to accept largesse from an entity under their legislative control? I once operated a xmas flight to HNL with the then transport minister travelling with his family FOC. At least other countries have the decency to hide their corruption with a bit of flair. Ours are just pigs at the trough.
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Old 25th Mar 2020, 04:43
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Alan Joyce and PR machine in full flight. 8000 got laid off today boys get the champagne out. Go on.
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This ‘journalist’ has written a number of articles critical of Virgin.

Is he a member of the Chairman’s Lounge at QF?
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The landscape just changed for Virgin/Tigers today!
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Old 25th Mar 2020, 05:19
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Originally Posted by Colonel_Klink
This ‘journalist’ has written a number of articles critical of Virgin.

Is he a member of the Chairman’s Lounge at QF?
I doubt it. he has been calling out Qantas as tax dodgers for years.

At the end of the day, we REALLY need a Federal ICAC to stamp out soft AND hard corruption, because, it ain't just airlines.

AND - we need to seriously curtail the government/business revolving door, address 'lobbying' and take the money out of politics.

Maybe after all this corona stuff is over, we can all take a good long look at ourselves, our society and governance, and work out a new social deal.
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Old 25th Mar 2020, 05:25
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I don’t SA was part of that group. Straight shooter from what I’ve seen.

First step is an enquiry into 2010-18.

On the topic of the club there was a rumor getting about that it had no budget during the build.
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Old 25th Mar 2020, 05:47
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Originally Posted by Berealgetreal
Alan Joyce and PR machine in full flight. 8000 got laid off today boys get the champagne out. Go on.
They weren't laid off. Get your facts straight.
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Originally Posted by normanton
They weren't laid off. Get your facts straight.
Bit touchy there.

Celebrate nonetheless, one step close to monopoly.
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machtuk, crawl back under your rock.
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Originally Posted by Berealgetreal
Bit touchy there.

Celebrate nonetheless, one step close to monopoly.
No I will not celebrate at all. I have many good friends at VA. Take your disgusting attitude elsewhere.
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What a joke of an article. Someone sounds pissed off he didn't get an invite.
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Originally Posted by George Glass
machtuk, crawl back under your rock.
gee you are an angry little man aren't you?
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machtuk , you contribute nothing.
It is not possible to exaggerate this seriousness of this situation for employees at Qantas , Virgin and many others in the aviation industry.
A level of gravitas is required when commenting. Something you lack.
Go away.
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