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Old 26th Oct 2019, 17:48
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Salvation
advent
santa Claus
i have no clue
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Old 26th Oct 2019, 18:03
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Christmas Aeroplane company
Red Bird II ?
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Old 26th Oct 2019, 18:12
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No - it's the name of the designer !

I think I should declare this and you will kick yourself...…….
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Old 26th Oct 2019, 18:38
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Wait till India is online again
Perhaps it is clear to him but I think you have reached a Jenkins level in cryptics.
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It isn't very cryptic at all.

The Christmas Pusher Biplane.

Open House.
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Old 26th Oct 2019, 19:27
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You could have told me that I had the right manufacturer!
But it seems that he indeed filed a patent for the invention of the ailerons.
Which led to a substantial claim.
Not clear if the Pusher biplane is the same as the Red Bird II
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Old 26th Oct 2019, 19:32
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They are not the same aeroplane.
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Old 27th Oct 2019, 02:29
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Since it is Open House, what's this? These are screen shots from the Rotodyne documentary that I just posted. There's a view of a slotted wing and a silhouette. The fin and rudder shadow seems somewhat "Miles-like".



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Old 27th Oct 2019, 09:37
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I did wonder when you mentioned slotted wing.

At first I thought they might be very crude vortex generators.

Do you know the answer or are you just trying to find out ?

edit: it looks as if it may have a radial engine.

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Old 27th Oct 2019, 10:37
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No, I don’t know what it is. It’s beyond my TAP knowledge!
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Old 27th Oct 2019, 10:57
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Well, I certainly don't know.

Possibly French.
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Old 27th Oct 2019, 11:36
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Slotted wings

some text at the bottom:
example Lockheed Hudson. But the Hudson has slots in 2-2-1 line-up
not 1-3. Silhouet is also not right.
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Old 27th Oct 2019, 13:32
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Fairey Rotodyne.
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Old 27th Oct 2019, 13:45
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Originally Posted by chevvron
Fairey Rotodyne
Ah, it's a photo of a Rotodyne, taken from another Rotodyne.
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Old 27th Oct 2019, 14:13
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I think it's a Tipsy Trainer - G-AFWT seems to have the right combination of slots in the outer wings.
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Fairey Rotodyne with GAL Monospar ST 12.
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Old 27th Oct 2019, 16:11
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I'll vote for treadigraph.

The tipsy was prone to wing drop at the stall caused by reduced downwash at the tips due to its' pointed tips and no washout.

The slots reduced this tendency as did the later wing with washout.

I don't think the Monospar had wing slots.

Here's the Tipsy wing and the slots exactly match those in the unknown image by I42.




Since I42 doesn't know either would anyone suggest what we do now ?
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Old 27th Oct 2019, 16:18
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Originally Posted by treadigraph
I think it's a Tipsy Trainer - G-AFWT seems to have the right combination of slots in the outer wings.
I agree - fits in with the Fairey connection.




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Old 27th Oct 2019, 16:35
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The camera ship was most likely this example:



Owned by Fairey throughout the 1950s and used at White Waltham by their flying club.

https://s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/a...9184-large.jpg
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Old 27th Oct 2019, 16:49
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Thanks everyone. The PPRuNe experts have come to the rescue again!

Treaders was the first one to mention the Tipsy, so I propose he takes control.
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