R44 crash w/video - Forresters Beach NSW - 19/11/2022
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R44 VH-TKI down on the NSW Central Coast
VH-TKI looks to have crashed at Foresters Beach on the Central Coast earlier this evening. The KRviatrix just sent me a video showing what appears to be the pilot trying to do a PS&L before yawing and disappearing from view and hitting wires, with multiple people reported trapped.
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EDIT: Latest report is two with minor injuries, the third is to be assessed by the team from Westpac, so there's some good news.
For those with FB, this link should work if you click here.
EDIT: Latest report is two with minor injuries, the third is to be assessed by the team from Westpac, so there's some good news.
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PS&L was a reference to precautionary search & landing. I lived on the coast for many years and can't recall there being any helipads out that way beyond this one on the way out to Erina. The actual crash site was within a couple hundred yards of here, on the Central Coast Hwy between Tumbi Rd & Cresthaven Ave nearly 10km away, which made me consider he's looking for a place to put her down for some reason. Other than that, there's no reason I can see that he'd be that low and slow in that area.
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I’d say he was looking for a place to crash…..
R44 crash w/video - Forresters Beach NSW - 19/11/2022
I'll take a guess with LTE? Very windy on southeast coast of Oz lately. All were okay. The news focused on hitting the power lines but that was clearly the secondary issue!
Got to love the news byline: "It's hard to crash your own birthday party, but that's exactly what's happened to a woman and her husband at Forresters Beach when their helicopter hit power lines yesterday. Incredibly, everyone survived but the traumatic scenes unfolded in front of the couple's family and friends."
Got to love the news byline: "It's hard to crash your own birthday party, but that's exactly what's happened to a woman and her husband at Forresters Beach when their helicopter hit power lines yesterday. Incredibly, everyone survived but the traumatic scenes unfolded in front of the couple's family and friends."
I'll take a guess with LTE?
There ain't no such animal as LTE, as explained by multiple test pilots such as Nick Lappos and John Dixson over the years. Search for "Helicopter urban myths" on this site.
Demanding more from the tail rotor than it can produce is a more likely cause. Frank Robinson was a tail rotor expert and it is difficult to get into a situation like the one depicted without some significant mishandling.
Oh, dear...it was a guess, but an uninformed one.
There ain't no such animal as LTE, as explained by multiple test pilots such as Nick Lappos and John Dixson over the years. Search for "Helicopter urban myths" on this site.
Demanding more from the tail rotor than it can produce is a more likely cause. Frank Robinson was a tail rotor expert and it is difficult to get into a situation like the one depicted without some significant mishandling.
There ain't no such animal as LTE, as explained by multiple test pilots such as Nick Lappos and John Dixson over the years. Search for "Helicopter urban myths" on this site.
Demanding more from the tail rotor than it can produce is a more likely cause. Frank Robinson was a tail rotor expert and it is difficult to get into a situation like the one depicted without some significant mishandling.
LTE - Lack of Talent and Experience!
There see.... ;-)
Evil, how many times do I have to tell you:
It's LACK OF TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE. But a lack of talent would certainly be a factor. We saw enough of that, didn't we.....
LTE - Lack of Talent and Experience!
Think overpitching here. Notice the ac actually yaws to the left as he slows down, that application of pedal will slow the MR down, I guess he pulls more power with collective, which reduces translational lift as the nose goes up a bit and the Tr says I have had enough and gives up !
How do talentless f**kwits like this keep getting licences?
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How do talentless f**kwits like this keep getting licences?
Can’t be shoddy training and poor oversight. Definitely not.
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It looks like a case of running out of power and ideas all at the same time.
That never ends well.
That never ends well.
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He might have had plenty of power, but when you demand more from the T/R than it can produce (not its fault) then the Waltz Into the Black Forest begins.
Hard to imagine that happening at sea level in a 44. Those things have really great tail rotor authority. I've never heard of anyone reaching the pedal stop on a 44, but I guess anything's possible?