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What drives this stupid superiority complex at CX? KA B scale had a better contract, a better leave system that actually worked, more money and 25 years house purchase scheme. I couldn't have given a toss where I flew to it was all about the time off and the money. Why would anybody aspire to make bunks for 3 years and wait 12 years for a command?
What drives this stupid superiority complex at CX? KA B scale had a better contract, a better leave system that actually worked, more money and 25 years house purchase scheme. I couldn't have given a toss where I flew to it was all about the time off and the money. Why would anybody aspire to make bunks for 3 years and wait 12 years for a command?
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"KA B scale had a better contract, a better leave system that actually worked, more money and 25 years house purchase scheme."
You do realise that's why KA was shut down in favour of the less-entitled at CX.
You do realise that's why KA was shut down in favour of the less-entitled at CX.
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Jeez boys, really? KA vs CX willy-waving eight months after the former were so brutally demolished?
Nothing to do with who had better pilots or a better contract, rather a top-level corporative decision based on aircraft, slots, predicted evolution of the pandemic, perceived brand value etc. An imperfect decision of course, but there you have it. Several hundred KA families lost their income and face highly uncertain futures. More and more CX families are joining them, be it the smaller number who lost their jobs at the same time, or the several hundred who are losing their jobs on bases right now or risk doing so due to visa issues.
It’s bloody carnage in our industry, with no quick end end in sight at the moment, especially here. Those who have lost and are losing their jobs deserve the sympathy of those holding onto theirs (albeit on drastically slashed Ts&Cs). Here’s hoping there’s light at the end of this bloody long tunnel.
Nothing to do with who had better pilots or a better contract, rather a top-level corporative decision based on aircraft, slots, predicted evolution of the pandemic, perceived brand value etc. An imperfect decision of course, but there you have it. Several hundred KA families lost their income and face highly uncertain futures. More and more CX families are joining them, be it the smaller number who lost their jobs at the same time, or the several hundred who are losing their jobs on bases right now or risk doing so due to visa issues.
It’s bloody carnage in our industry, with no quick end end in sight at the moment, especially here. Those who have lost and are losing their jobs deserve the sympathy of those holding onto theirs (albeit on drastically slashed Ts&Cs). Here’s hoping there’s light at the end of this bloody long tunnel.
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No waving of anything here, just observation.
If KA's package was better overall then presumably their cost/unit work was higher. Closing down KA was administratively easy and saved money in the long run. Once expat benefits were eliminated, base closures were inevitable for the same reasons.
No malice, no judgement, just the way I think it was.
If KA's package was better overall then presumably their cost/unit work was higher. Closing down KA was administratively easy and saved money in the long run. Once expat benefits were eliminated, base closures were inevitable for the same reasons.
No malice, no judgement, just the way I think it was.
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Perhaps, though bear in mind flight crew costs only run to around 4% of total outlay. I doubt respective crew costs were the deciding factor? But (going back on topic), the decision did lead to the current visa issue. Still no news there, except for crickets...
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How does Danny get news faster than my effort to log into my email? For those interested without access:
The government has told Cathay it will extend the work visas of its expat pilots, but not its foreign cabin crew, according to an internal memo. Photo: Winson WongHong Kong immigration officials will renew the visas of all of Cathay Pacific’s expatriate pilots, but its large contingent of foreign cabin crew will be denied extensions permitting them to remain based in the city, according to memos seen by the Post.
The decision leaves the airline’s foreign cabin crew at risk of losing their jobs, with the airline saying it would offer the same voluntary redundancy package to affected staff that it offered to others in late April.
In its memo on Thursday, Cathay expressed regret that some employees would have to leave the company as a result of the decision, but said it would lodge appeals on behalf of certain cabin crew, particularly those with Japanese and Korean language skills.
Since late last year, the aviation industry has encountered resistance from the Immigration Department, which has only been willing to offer short-term visa renewals for foreign staff of up to three months.
Authorities have attributed the hardline stance to rising unemployment among skilled aviation workers in the city, with the shutdown of regional airline Cathay Dragon last year seen by many as a significant factor.
The Post understands freighter pilots – who have played a key operational role at the airline amid the Covid-19 crisis – would get three-year visa extensions, while passenger crew would only get six to 12-month extensions.
The decision leaves the airline’s foreign cabin crew at risk of losing their jobs, with the airline saying it would offer the same voluntary redundancy package to affected staff that it offered to others in late April.
In its memo on Thursday, Cathay expressed regret that some employees would have to leave the company as a result of the decision, but said it would lodge appeals on behalf of certain cabin crew, particularly those with Japanese and Korean language skills.
Since late last year, the aviation industry has encountered resistance from the Immigration Department, which has only been willing to offer short-term visa renewals for foreign staff of up to three months.
Authorities have attributed the hardline stance to rising unemployment among skilled aviation workers in the city, with the shutdown of regional airline Cathay Dragon last year seen by many as a significant factor.
The Post understands freighter pilots – who have played a key operational role at the airline amid the Covid-19 crisis – would get three-year visa extensions, while passenger crew would only get six to 12-month extensions.
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Easy solution,
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justification to immigration will be needed in this case. And cx can hardly justify how come a pilot become unsuitable suddenly in less than a year. And noticed that the fleet with local supply, airbus and 777, have the visa renewed in a shorter period (only 6 months to 1 year) I fully expect Cathay have to take up all the local pilots within 1 year to trade for the visa renewal, that is the deal with ImmD
justification to immigration will be needed in this case. And cx can hardly justify how come a pilot become unsuitable suddenly in less than a year. And noticed that the fleet with local supply, airbus and 777, have the visa renewed in a shorter period (only 6 months to 1 year) I fully expect Cathay have to take up all the local pilots within 1 year to trade for the visa renewal, that is the deal with ImmD