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Old 30th Dec 2021, 12:50
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And so it begins...

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The genie is now out of the bottle. Cases will double every two days. Get your third dose before the queues are too long.
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 14:15
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How about start just treating it like a form of the cold virus that it really is? Maybe that might start returning some sanity to the debate.
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 14:27
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Freighter crew now have New Year off. Long haul freighters suspended for seven days. Quarantine increased to seven days too.
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...acific-aircrew
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Something so infectious you can delay the application of quarantines by 36h
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The good news is that it is omicron, the mildest form of covid so far. Hopefully, if it does set off a massive wave of infections, it will effectively ‘vaccinate’ the general population in Hong Kong and will set the stage for opening up it up to the rest of the world.
If they manage to contain it somehow, it would not be good news for aviation and cargo supply to Hong Kong.
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 15:11
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Originally Posted by Fly747
Freighter crew now have New Year off. Long haul freighters suspended for seven days. Quarantine increased to seven days too.
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...acific-aircrew
Won’t be long now until the last wheel comes off. Good luck to everyone finding a new job, albeit non aviation related. This Soap Opera has been a good one!
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 15:14
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If only we had some bases to circumvent the new 7 day quarantine rule.
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 15:35
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If only we had some bases to circumvent the new 7 day quarantine rule.
LA is just that… this is the beginning of the end if nothing changes. We will go the way of UO. Flights limited to training captains if there are any left.
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 16:06
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yes, but that is not how the government and health lunatics in HK think or will think about how to deal from now on, you know nothing they implement is science based .
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I’d like to see them trying to hospitalise every person with covid in a proper outbreak, like they are doing now, whether symptomatic or not.

People will be dying, not from omicron, but from lack of hospital beds.

I want to see the system break, I’ve had enough.
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Old 31st Dec 2021, 00:48
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Originally Posted by Oasis
I’d like to see them trying to hospitalise every person with covid in a proper outbreak, like they are doing now, whether symptomatic or not.

People will be dying, not from omicron, but from lack of hospital beds.

I want to see the system break, I’ve had enough.
Just need to put a few bunk beds in at AWE. Double the capacity straight away. The farce that is the government is going to get this severely wrong either way.
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Old 31st Dec 2021, 01:38
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Still they have a limited amount of nurses and doctors, but I take your point.
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Old 31st Dec 2021, 03:18
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Plus yet more messages of HOPE from our leadership. Hope is not a strategy. It's not even a lousy strategy.
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Old 31st Dec 2021, 03:19
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Originally Posted by Oasis
I’d like to see them trying to hospitalise every person with covid in a proper outbreak, like they are doing now, whether symptomatic or not.

People will be dying, not from omicron, but from lack of hospital beds.

I want to see the system break, I’ve had enough.
It will be glorious when the Chinese are forced to abandon their stupid covid 0 policy. Unfortunately most locals support all the over the top quarantine and rules and wearing masks outdoors... I never really took much notice of cultural differences between the Chinese and gwei los until covid hit
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And now it’s Iron Fairies ffs.
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...ected-mark-end
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Old 31st Dec 2021, 07:08
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Many of the guys on 3 days home quarantine also held Christmas Parties with photos on Facebook. You never had to look far for someone breaching the rules. Guys were leaving the hotels outport since the beginning.
I'm glad it's finally broken the borders. HK needs this to even look like moving forward. It'll scare locals into vaccines.
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Originally Posted by Rie
Many of the guys on 3 days home quarantine also held Christmas Parties with photos on Facebook. You never had to look far for someone breaching the rules. Guys were leaving the hotels outport since the beginning.
I'm glad it's finally broken the borders. HK needs this to even look like moving forward. It'll scare locals into vaccines.
The news just said, CX chairman and CEO both got summoned by Carrie Lam and were both heavily condemned by the CE.... This is exactly the same move that Chairman Xi pulled on Jack Ma and many other billionaires in China, if the big man is unhappy, someone will be reprimanded... And given shxt rolls downhill, guess what's going to happen next... It will be Healy/Augustus -> Kempis -> respective CPs -> anyone else who has stripes on their shoulders... I said that before, the CE only cares about the border with the motherland, anyone who even remotely affect her plan to reconnect with the motherland will be punished...

The Covid 0 strategy will NOT change, you guys seriously need to get someone to translate some Chinese news to you. There are words coming out of Xian, which has been in lockdown for 8-9 days now, that people only have enough food to have 1 meal per day as they are completely locked in their home with groceries delivered by the authorities. Motherland does not care about vaccines, it cares about COVID 0. Stop dreaming that HK can move forward, HK is a baby in a pram, it wouldn't move unless the mother pushes it
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Let’s hope the Jelly Fish and kie disappears like those book sellers in Causeway Bay.

Xinjiang “training camps” are looking for some extra hands

CE summons Cathay bosses over rule-breaching staff
https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/compone...6-20211231.htm
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Old 31st Dec 2021, 09:42
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To be honest, re-opening of bases is the only way forward for Cathay to operate the airline efficiency for the foreseeable future.

It is a 180 from the policy to close them only a few months ago, but they have to be flexible and act as the battlefield changes.

It solves the problem of pilots bringing COVID in as you can isolate them on their layover, solves the mental health issue for pilots and avoids the unpredictable nature of the rules.

They need to operate the airline outside - in rather than the reverse.

I know they are working on it, but it is very slow, a day late and a dollar short.
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