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RAF website has 3D modelling of the Tempest on line

Old 31st Oct 2020, 00:29
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RAF website has 3D modelling of the Tempest on line

Looks cool, I wonder if it will ever see daylight in that form, or indeed at all. Pilots appear to be an optional extra, it also measures their fatigue and stress...

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https://www.raf.mod.uk/what-we-do/team-tempest/tempest/
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Wonder if its technology suite includes a 27mm kinetic effector.
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How will gesture control work in high-g-environments?
Better don't make the lowest virtual key the nuke release button.
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Not too sure this isn’t just a bit of gamification. It has a HUD for starters - no need if you have HMD (like F35). Also, where is the second seat?
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Surely it should be powered by some 'environmentally safe' method?
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Originally Posted by Saintsman
Surely it should be powered by some 'environmentally safe' method?
The two pipes it shows on the engine, surely they are just a glorified high ratio bypass casing add on.

when it said it measures pilots stress one did wonder if the seat had a built in massager to relax you, or maybe it squirts some laughing gas into your oxygen supply.
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"Effectors"
Oh dear...
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Don’t be so hard on the wording, the Oxford Languages gives the meaning as “an organ or cell that acts in response to a stimulus.”

It appears it’s another form of bull**** speak brought about by people who seem to think using different wording to describe the bleeding obvious makes them appear more intelligent.
At the end of the day it’s just some form weaponry used in molecular redistribution


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/transcr...gence-matters/



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I think "deflectors" might be more appropriate?
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Don’t be so hard on the wording, the Oxford Languages gives the meaning as “an organ or cell that acts in response to a stimulus.”

It appears it’s another form of bull**** speak brought about by people who seem to think using different wording to describe the bleeding obvious makes them appear more intelligent.


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Possibly but in this case it is just an abstraction used in MBSE class modelling activities; it just seems to have crept into the marketing spiel. A level of abstraction helps to develop a reference architecture that can be re-used across systems rather than a platform specific architecture.

Refer to the DE&S Pyramid Project.
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The EWIs reading this are going to get a little bit "excited" when they see that.

It looks promising to be an incredible capability - IF the Government puts the money forward and IF the Government learns from the mistakes of Tornado and Typhoon, and puts the UK's requirements first.
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That will help production numbers for sure.
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I really hope someone's doing a better job than the 'tempest' we are shown, in the actual design office.
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Looks like lots of 'over-promising' in the sales brochure - what will they actually 'under-deliver'?
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We're working towards our concept of cockpits without a single physical dial or screen.

Instead, pilots will wear a next generation augmented and virtual reality helmet that will project interactive cockpit displays and controls directly in front of their eyes.

Other pilot support concepts such as virtual assistants are also being developed and tested.

This work is continuing and flight trials are now being planned to test some of these innovations in a real environment.
I take it will also have a conventional cockpit as a back up for the all singing all dancing “virtual” cockpit. The other thought was, if your using a virtual headset, are you going the whole hog projecting the real world onto it, ie so you can see through the aircraft etc, or will it just be an extension of the current Typhoon system.

The other question is how will you interface with it, HOTAS has to have limits as to what you can actually control via switches or do you think they will use some sort of virtual glove?
I realise that you cannot fly the aircraft waving your hands around in front of you, but a conventional HOTAS for fighting the aircraft with a button to bring up cockpit mode and a single glove to interface with the VR cockpit should be doable.

An interesting idea, although ejection might cause problems


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I think the idea is to offload much work from the pilot, such that even HOTAS can be simplified. Targeting where you look - so yes, through the aircraft, voice interaction with a virtual co-pilot, ai doing much of the sorting and routing - maybe even assisted piloting - transforming what autopilot really is and pointing the nose for you if it thinks it's figured out a better intercept. A lot of pilot stuff is going to come down to okaying weapons launch.

This won't just happen here, it will also happen in civil commercial aircraft, where there will be a push towards assisted single pilot with more networked airliners.
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The very use of the word ‘operator’ several times is an intriguing revelation. The pure piloting skill, even in F35 and some of our other modern aircraft, has started to be less needed. The managing of systems, whilst automation helps with the handling of the aircraft, turns future Aircrew into more systems ‘operators’ than pure Pilots. Will this 6th Generation aircraft see a new term being used for its Aircrew?
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Human payload?
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