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Old 26th Nov 2021, 14:48
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Interim Red Air Aggressor Training

So it looks like the PQQ for this interim capability was published today. Very little detail contained within regards to what is required beyond stating that the platform must have an air-to-air radar and radar warning receiver equipment. Has anyone seen the actual contract notice or statement of requirement that may provide some greater detail?


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More to the point, which companies are bidding!?
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Originally Posted by Foghorn Leghorn
More to the point, which companies are bidding!?
I think the real question is that of who has capacity from within existing fleets that isn’t already contractually committed? That is of course unless someone hasn’t acquired a fleet of aircraft specifically for this interim programme. Will be interesting to watch.
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More to the point, which companies are bidding!?
We will only know that once Treasury and MoD have read the answers to the PQQ and decided whose replies they like enough to want in the bidding round. If it gets that far. Should it look too expensive after PQQ it will be back to the word processor.

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According to the UK Defence Journal blog the timeline is very sporty - by Summer '22 with approval from the CAA and MAA. That should narrow it down a bit.

Any ideas to buy the 100 Sqn Hawks and contract them back to the RAF has been scuppered by the air-to-air radar requirement.

Perhaps it's an attempt to flog off the Tranche 1 Typhoons and get a contractor to fly them; that will help to reduce the JPANs at Lossiemouth and save in the short term as pilots will ET and join the new company. But then the hard-pressed TG1 techies will jump ship as well ... not so good.
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Originally Posted by Nil_Drift
According to the UK Defence Journal blog the timeline is very sporty - by Summer '22 with approval from the CAA and MAA. That should narrow it down a bit.

Any ideas to buy the 100 Sqn Hawks and contract them back to the RAF has been scuppered by the air-to-air radar requirement.

Perhaps it's an attempt to flog off the Tranche 1 Typhoons and get a contractor to fly them; that will help to reduce the JPANs at Lossiemouth and save in the short term as pilots will ET and join the new company. But then the hard-pressed TG1 techies will jump ship as well ... not so good.
Unfortunately, that won’t happen as Typhoon is far too expensive to run as COCO Red Air.
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This appears to have gone quiet, anyone got an update?
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Did the Russians get the contract?
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Appears the answer is below judging by the recruitment drive for Fast Jet Captains, SE Techs, Egress, Av, and Mechs.

Draken Europe Job Search

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Any rumours on the platform? Asking for a friend…
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Any rumours on the platform? Asking for a friend…
Coincidental with Draken's purchasing of a number of the recently retired Norwegian AF F-16 fleet last month...perhaps.

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Originally Posted by GeeRam
Coincidental with Draken's purchasing of a number of the recently retired Norwegian AF F-16 fleet last month...perhaps.
Doubtful, I suspect it will be something Hawk like from within their compendium of aircraft.
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Originally Posted by _SpinFlight_
Doubtful, I suspect it will be something Hawk like from within their compendium of aircraft.
Aero L-159E ALCA's for instance ?
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Aero L-159E ALCA's for instance ?
Indeed David. DRAKEN have updated their job spec to : Draken Europe are recruiting for a L159 Captain to be based at Teesside International Airport in the UK.
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L-159 vs Hawk T1

That’s a real upgrade isn’t it?! I’m sure the Typhoon and F35 guys will be delighted at the challenge.

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When they say captain is he the senior guy in American terms and might they employ further pilots and ground staff.
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The Draken ads are for Fast jet Aircrew and Groundcrew, including Squippers, Riggers, Avionics & Egress.
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Still wondering who or what will replace 736 at Culdrose.
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Still wondering who or what will replace 736 at Culdrose.
Project Vampire Phase 1 - the RN will not be getting a fast jet replacement. It will be Banshee or Mirach.
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Originally Posted by Bob Viking
That’s a real upgrade isn’t it?! I’m sure the Typhoon and F35 guys will be delighted at the challenge.

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It’s a shame that the RAF won’t stump up the cash to pay for a more capable platform. Alas, with the money on offer in the contract, you get what you pay for.
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