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Korea selects Embraer C390

Old 4th Dec 2023, 15:51
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Korea selects Embraer C390

https://embraer.com/global/en/news?s...390-millennium



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I wonder if Lockheed are starting to get concerned over the orders this is picking up at the expense of what probably would have been Herc orders.

I wonder if Lockheed ever did a study at re-engining the Herc with a pair or four turbofans?
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
I wonder if Lockheed are starting to get concerned over the orders this is picking up at the expense of what probably would have been Herc orders.

I wonder if Lockheed ever did a study at re-engining the Herc with a pair or four turbofans?
Would there be any point, its got a straight wing so probably could not go much faster and at the speed it flys turboprops are likely to be way more efficient. Updating engines to more modern turboprop or some type of composite prop might be an option?
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Updating engines - just what they did on the C-130J!!
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Good for Embraer, but why choose a jet transport for a country as small as S Korea and no distant military interests?
Seems like the C-130 is not only adequate, but perfect there.
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I reckon the Herc's days are numbered. Eventually every airframe reaches the end of its life cycle.
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For wondering: Just got off the phone. The B-52 called, and would like to have a word.
So too did the Huey and the S-61 ...
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
For wondering: Just got off the phone. The B-52 called, and would like to have a word.
So too did the Huey and the S-61 ...
Hueys are seeing the end of their cycle with Grey Wolf taking over some of their roles.
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Hueys are seeing the end of their cycle with Grey Wolf taking over some of their roles.
My turnů

The USMC called and would love to chat about the super Hueys and all the life time left in those airframes. Do believe Bell is still producing varying Huey iterations still.
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Shameless plug for the Venom:
https://www.bellflight.com/products/bell-uh-1y
Foreground is Viper, AH-1Z, wingman is Venom, UH-1Y.
Each powered by 2 T-700 engines and having a bearingless rotor system, and you'll note the four bladed tail rotor.
(Finally learned something from Blackhawk, they did!)

Back on topic, I think the 390 is a good looking bird.

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Good for Embraer, but why choose a jet transport for a country as small as S Korea and no distant military interests?
Seems like the C-130 is not only adequate, but perfect there.
South Korea contributes to international operations all over the world (the RoKAF operates the A330 MRTT for this reason), most recently helping with the evacuation from Kabul. Over recent years, the RoKAF C-130s have operated in Afghanistan, Angola, East Timor, Nepal, the Philippines, and Indonesia, and from 2004 to 2008 the RoK Army was deployed in Iraq. Plenty of need for the KC-390.
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The KC-390 is a bigger aircraft than it looks - those huge cockpit windows give the impression of a smaller airframe
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Originally Posted by Davef68
The KC-390 is a bigger aircraft than it looks - those huge cockpit windows give the impression of a smaller airframe

size wise its between C-130 and A-400

C-130 - 20 tons
C-390 - 26 tons
A-400 37 tons
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Originally Posted by Davef68
The KC-390 is a bigger aircraft than it looks - those huge cockpit windows give the impression of a smaller airframe
My takeaway from that post is ... size matters!
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Originally Posted by rattman
size wise its between C-130 and A-400

C-130 - 20 tons
C-390 - 26 tons
A-400 37 tons

And the Mitsubishi C-2, same PLD as the A400M Atlas, but 60KTAS faster and double the range with that payload. And it is made by people who make fine items.
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but the Japanese are reluctant to ship military goods - not a problem with the Brazilians
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