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Old 11th Mar 2021, 22:27
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Originally Posted by radials
Both are reputable establishments, and there is no need to rubbish them unnecessarily.
Ive heard from TAFE’s previous flying partner that TAFE were absolutely hopeless.
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Old 22nd Mar 2021, 10:22
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Anyone do the auctions ? They were starting today i thought ?
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Old 22nd Mar 2021, 21:49
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$81,500 for the 800 hour VH registered Bristell.

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Old 22nd Mar 2021, 22:46
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$81,500 for the 800 hour VH registered Bristell.
+ 8.25% Buyers premium (Inc GST)

FOXBAT 61.5K + BP CAIRNS
TWIN 500.5K + BP - MAYBE A BIT HIGHER
RED BRISTELL 111.5K + BP - MAYBE A BIT HIGHER
AQUILA APPROX 59.5K +BP - MAYBE A BIT HIGHER
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Old 23rd Mar 2021, 04:34
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Fark! The Tecnam Twins were $400000 each when they were new. These aren’t. I have flown both of them in their previous life at anther flight school and I can confirm that they were a maintenance nightmare. Gee, buy two good recent year model Seminoles for $500k if you want a good IFR Twin trainer.
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Old 6th Apr 2021, 08:05
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Someone scored an Aerobat for $14,700 ?? :o
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Old 6th Apr 2021, 08:38
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Someone scored an Aerobat for $14,700 ?? :o
Aeroprakt Foxbat.

Close to 4K hours. Probably pretty tired if still in one piece.

My contacts that viewed the aircraft and logs all said that they was a lot of bent, broken, replaced and upgraded nose legs, even on the newer Tecnams.
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Old 6th Apr 2021, 13:01
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The rear fuse had an inspection hole cut in it but this compromised the structural integrity of the rear fuselage, So I have been told. Look at the foxbat SB on their website apropos the rudder cable replacement. I was told by a soar engineer, well he wore a soar jacket and said he was an engineer, they had developed a tool to replace those components but IMHO it was BS. Hence the new rear fuse as part of the YBSK auction. I was told by the horse it was over 35k to get it back in the air. Did anyone notice with numerous aircraft the similarity between leak down tests, i.e., 78/80 for every cylinder?

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Old 12th Apr 2021, 05:49
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BHI are now using a mix of MFS and Tristar for its students.
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Old 15th Jan 2022, 02:00
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Unhappy

Australian Aviation reporting that the (ex) students from SOAR are facing a long wait to get to Court.....

The reported delay until Sept 2022 means that many of the (ex)students will be unable to afford to enroll for alternative qualifications because they have used up their limited VET student loans.

What a 'sh1t' situation to be in!

(Not that there's a 'lot' of vacancies right now.....
Maybe a quick course in tennis could expedite their case, like, have it this weekend...)

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Old 18th Jan 2022, 04:44
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Compare CASAs approaches to SOAR with APT

So the question has to be asked. How did CASA allow SOAR to continue to operate after having numerous safety events and probably other indirect evidence of shonkiness, and Glen Buckley's APT to be nailed with (as far as I am aware) none.

Also how does Box Hill institute continue to function? TEQSA should have shut down the accreditation after the SOAR problems started to surface.

I reckon more names need to appear in this forum to let us all know who are the incompetent shonks.

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Old 1st Dec 2022, 06:09
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The $33m update.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/austr...dcc5a3191bb187
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Old 1st Dec 2022, 20:02
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The Age is reporting that only around 10% of the approximately 1000 students got their CPL.
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Old 2nd Dec 2022, 05:01
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The Age is reporting that only around 10% of the approximately 1000 students got their CPL.
What's that my accountant is always saying: "There are lies, damned lies.. and statistics"?? There are all kinds of reasons some Soar students didn't get their tickets. Soar were selling most flavours RPC, RPL, PPL, CPL, ME whilst they could so it wasn't just a few CPL students that missed out, there were a host of others also. Some I know quit when they could and headed for the relative safety of other YMMB flight schools, some got scared off flying altogether while still others hung on and got clobbered right royally.

(As a small aside, I do find it amusing that the 08 Sep ERSA entry for YMMB specifically added RAAus aircraft to the PPR list. Maybe, like many who grew up herding Foxbats in the circuit, they never want to see one of them yellow perils ever again. )
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The Age is reporting that only around 10% of the approximately 1000 students got their CPL.
There might also be a factor in this regarding having a go at something because there's no perceived risk. I've seen a lot of students throw HECS money around like its free cash, which in a way it is until you start earning, it should never have been allowed for pilot courses as it was always going to be abused. Sign up for a flying course, why not, charge it to the Gov. Few months later, nah this sucks I'm going to do a trade... I know numerous individuals that have debts from flying training and never made it to commercial level for various reasons. One thing I've found in common about young people and flying training, not many look into the fine print or contingency plans. Fastest route to the shiny jet, Tally Ho!

(As a small aside, I do find it amusing that the 08 Sep ERSA entry for YMMB specifically added RAAus aircraft to the PPR list. Maybe, like many who grew up herding Foxbats in the circuit, they never want to see one of them yellow perils ever again. )
To be fair it's probably more the operator than the machine.
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Old 2nd Dec 2022, 06:04
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nearly 10 mill of that in legal and administration fees!
Those poor students! How many of them were involved in the class action?
And Neel gets away with it.
Supreme Court approves Soar Payout - Australian Flying
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Old 2nd Dec 2022, 08:25
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I personally worked with the Kingston Council (Moorabbin) and RAAus to get the $300+ landing fee for RAAus aircraft removed! Happened a few months ago.

It was about landing fee collection, not the aircraft or operator.
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Old 2nd Dec 2022, 09:11
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ymmb is still off limits since it’s class D airspace. No entry without a PPL and medical and a factory built aircraft. There is nothing about reduced charges on their website. I can’t wait for it to be redeveloped, then the NIMBYs can complain about traffic, parking, crime and pollution. The developers are just the usual sharks and should be treated as such. A plague on the lot of them.
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Old 2nd Dec 2022, 10:02
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Originally Posted by Sunfish
ymmb is still off limits since it’s class D airspace. No entry without a PPL and medical and a factory built aircraft. There is nothing about reduced charges on their website. I can’t wait for it to be redeveloped, then the NIMBYs can complain about traffic, parking, crime and pollution. The developers are just the usual sharks and should be treated as such. A plague on the lot of them.
The landing fees will be updated in the next release of the usage agreement. I’m not sure when it’s due.

I’m not sure where you get your little outbursts from, as I’ve been operating my amateur built aircraft into YMMB legally for years!

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