Austro Control accepting pre 31st Dec UK ATPL exam passes?
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Austro Control accepting pre 31st Dec UK ATPL exam passes?
Anyone have the latest on this for someone who has not done a SOLI transfer and got most of the ATPL exams passed when the U.K. was in EASA?
it would to continue and get an EASA licence.
or do they all have to be taken again?
it would to continue and get an EASA licence.
or do they all have to be taken again?
EASA FAQ n.125439 (last updated 12 Mar 2021)
Question
I am a student pilot in an CPL/ATPL integrated course and I
successfully completed my ATPL theoretical exams in the UK by December
31, 2020. Can I complete, after that date, the flight training in an
ATO approved by an EASA Member State or EASA? Will my UK ATPL theory
certificate of completion be accepted by EASA Member States for the
licence issue after December 31, 2020?
Answer
EASA Member State competent authorities may continue to accept such
valid theoretical knowledge examination completion certificates for
the purpose of issuing Part-FCL licenses and ratings in accordance
with either Regulation (EU) 1178/2011 or Delegated Regulation (EU)
2020/723, provided that those examination completion certificates are
still within their validity period in accordance with FCL.025(c) in
Annex 1 to Regulation (EU) 1178/2011 and provided that they were
issued by the UK CAA before January 01, 2021 in full compliance with
Annex 1 (Part-FCL) to Regulation (EU) 1178/2011. In particular, in
accordance with FCL.025(a)(1) in Annex 1 (Part-FCL) to Regulation (EU)
1178/2011, the entire set of theoretical knowledge examinations for a
specific licence or rating must have been taken under the
responsibility of the UK CAA.
Please note that this does not mean that the student file can be
transferred to an EASA Member State training organisation, but only
that EASA Member State competent authorities may continue to accept
theoretical knowledge examination completion certificates which were
issued before January 01, 2021 by the UK CAA for the purpose of
issuing their own licenses or ratings.
After January 01, 2021, in order to continue relying on that ATPL
theoretical knowledge examination issued by the UK CAA for the purpose
of obtaining a Part-FCL license or rating the student should undergo
flight training at a training organisation under oversight of EASA or
an EASA Member State and apply for the issue of the license or rating
to one of the EASA Member States competent authorities within the
period of validity of the theoretical knowledge examination
certificate concerned.
In case the student transferred to an ATO approved by a EU 27
competent authority or EASA before the January 01, 2021, the student
should also have applied to the competent licensing authority of an
EASA Member State by that date for a formal assessment of the further
hours of training required. The new EU competent authority will be the
one to whom the student will apply for the licence issue.
http://easa.europa.eu/faq/125439
Question
I am a student pilot in an CPL/ATPL integrated course and I
successfully completed my ATPL theoretical exams in the UK by December
31, 2020. Can I complete, after that date, the flight training in an
ATO approved by an EASA Member State or EASA? Will my UK ATPL theory
certificate of completion be accepted by EASA Member States for the
licence issue after December 31, 2020?
Answer
EASA Member State competent authorities may continue to accept such
valid theoretical knowledge examination completion certificates for
the purpose of issuing Part-FCL licenses and ratings in accordance
with either Regulation (EU) 1178/2011 or Delegated Regulation (EU)
2020/723, provided that those examination completion certificates are
still within their validity period in accordance with FCL.025(c) in
Annex 1 to Regulation (EU) 1178/2011 and provided that they were
issued by the UK CAA before January 01, 2021 in full compliance with
Annex 1 (Part-FCL) to Regulation (EU) 1178/2011. In particular, in
accordance with FCL.025(a)(1) in Annex 1 (Part-FCL) to Regulation (EU)
1178/2011, the entire set of theoretical knowledge examinations for a
specific licence or rating must have been taken under the
responsibility of the UK CAA.
Please note that this does not mean that the student file can be
transferred to an EASA Member State training organisation, but only
that EASA Member State competent authorities may continue to accept
theoretical knowledge examination completion certificates which were
issued before January 01, 2021 by the UK CAA for the purpose of
issuing their own licenses or ratings.
After January 01, 2021, in order to continue relying on that ATPL
theoretical knowledge examination issued by the UK CAA for the purpose
of obtaining a Part-FCL license or rating the student should undergo
flight training at a training organisation under oversight of EASA or
an EASA Member State and apply for the issue of the license or rating
to one of the EASA Member States competent authorities within the
period of validity of the theoretical knowledge examination
certificate concerned.
In case the student transferred to an ATO approved by a EU 27
competent authority or EASA before the January 01, 2021, the student
should also have applied to the competent licensing authority of an
EASA Member State by that date for a formal assessment of the further
hours of training required. The new EU competent authority will be the
one to whom the student will apply for the licence issue.
http://easa.europa.eu/faq/125439
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What has been been the response from Australia Control then Alex? Have they been accepting any passes prior to 31Ist Dec 2020?
What about someone who had not passed all the exams prior to this date?
What about someone who had not passed all the exams prior to this date?
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As far as I know Austro's position was that they would not only accept a full suite of CAA passes before exit day for EASA licence issue but would also accept partial passes, allowing the candidate to continue the series with Austro. You might want to check that, though, as there seems to have been a bit of infighting in EASA-land.
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Has anyone got any luck with Austro Control or Malta CAA. I am currently in a similar situation trying to transfer my UK CPL to EASA ATPL. I was able to receive an email from EASA itself prooving that ATPL exams are still valid for 7 years if it was obtained under UK CAA before 2021 or 7 years since last IR rating validity. Clarification of the regulations is only a Google click away, either Part FCL or FCL.025 (c )(2) which confirms:
(c) Validity period
(1) The successful completion of the theoretical knowledge examinations will be valid:
(i) for the issue of a light aircraft pilot licence, a private pilot licence, a sailplane pilot
licence or a balloon pilot licence, for a period of 24 months;
(ii) for the issue of a commercial pilot licence, instrument rating (IR) or en route
instrument rating (EIR), for a period of 36 months;
(iii) the periods in (i) and (ii) shall be counted from the day when the pilot
successfully completes the theoretical knowledge examination, in accordance with
(b)(2).
(2) The completion of the airline transport pilot licence (ATPL) theoretical knowledge
examinations will remain valid for the issue of an ATPL for a period of 7 years from the last
validity date of:
(i) an IR entered in the licence; or
(ii) in the case of helicopters, a helicopter’s type rating entered in that licence.
The email states you cannot simply swap the licences but then says that individual states can accept your training / qualifications if you apply for a licence.
Therefore your TK exams are valid for 7 years from the last IR and you should not need to take them again.
You obviously would need to take an EASA Class 1 medical for the state you wish to apply for an EASA ATPL licence
(c) Validity period
(1) The successful completion of the theoretical knowledge examinations will be valid:
(i) for the issue of a light aircraft pilot licence, a private pilot licence, a sailplane pilot
licence or a balloon pilot licence, for a period of 24 months;
(ii) for the issue of a commercial pilot licence, instrument rating (IR) or en route
instrument rating (EIR), for a period of 36 months;
(iii) the periods in (i) and (ii) shall be counted from the day when the pilot
successfully completes the theoretical knowledge examination, in accordance with
(b)(2).
(2) The completion of the airline transport pilot licence (ATPL) theoretical knowledge
examinations will remain valid for the issue of an ATPL for a period of 7 years from the last
validity date of:
(i) an IR entered in the licence; or
(ii) in the case of helicopters, a helicopter’s type rating entered in that licence.
The email states you cannot simply swap the licences but then says that individual states can accept your training / qualifications if you apply for a licence.
Therefore your TK exams are valid for 7 years from the last IR and you should not need to take them again.
You obviously would need to take an EASA Class 1 medical for the state you wish to apply for an EASA ATPL licence