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737 Max $25 billion hit to Boeing "Biggest corporate blunder ever"

Old 18th Nov 2020, 01:32
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737 Max $25 billion hit to Boeing "Biggest corporate blunder ever"

Apparently all because somebody thought it would be a good idea to outsource programming and minimise the matter in ops manuals?

Surely didn't cut costs.

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Old 18th Nov 2020, 07:21
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Please do tell us who this "somebody" was.
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Considering the loss of life and the misery caused to thousands, I'd say they got off light. A long dose of prison life for those responsible would have been a better (though unlikely) outcome.
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Old 18th Nov 2020, 11:32
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The bad thing is that they wasted the budget that would have been needed for some successor.
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Old 18th Nov 2020, 11:38
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i agree with you. as it turns out only 1 person lost their job over this fiasco.
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Nah... Would have gone into stock repurchase and optiosn. Why think long term when one can get paid handsomely short term ?!
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Green light for RTS.

https://www.faa.gov/regulations_poli...mentID/1038501
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Old 18th Nov 2020, 13:39
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Any loss of life is regrettable, but to call it the "biggest corporate blunder ever" is a tad much. What about Bhopal where nearly 4,000 lost their lives. Or even 'The Titanic'. I always think it's quite ironic that they have Titanic themes bars and make it out that it's something to be celebrated!.
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You don't have a clue of what your talking about.
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Old 18th Nov 2020, 15:29
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BP: So, $25 billion eh? Y'all want me to carry on holding this beer Mr Boeing?
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Old 18th Nov 2020, 15:46
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"Apparently all because somebody thought it would be a good idea to outsource programming and minimise the matter in ops manuals?"

Much worse than simply outsourcing. Organizational culture issue.

Clowns and monkeys played a role. Sad.

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"Surely didn't cut costs."

Sound lesson to bean counters as PIC and engineers merely PF's.
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Old 18th Nov 2020, 16:50
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Can you give us a hint? Were there some more heads rolling? Scapegoats or those who deserved it?
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25 Bliion $ biggest corporate blunder ever? Ask Volkswagen! Their "Dieselgate" has cost them close to 35 Billion $ so far and it's far from over...
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"The bad thing is that they wasted the budget that would have been needed for some successor."

And the chinese virus completes the R&D outlook
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I don;t feel that I should respond to this request for information, and I do not have all the ugly the details, but I can asure you people were quietly shown the door within the last six months, if not before. This of course is not to mention the thousands of employees that have lost their jobs from the combination of the MAX debacle, and Covid 19.
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Old 18th Nov 2020, 21:40
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Iím surprised it took this long to be honest.

Itís a 1960ís, 30 tonne first generation jet that has been patched and superglued for 60 years.

The NG has fundamental issues too. A woeful overhead panel, thrust-pitch couple problems, under engine clearance issues, an elevator which is vastly undersized, tail strike susceptibility because they refused to lengthen the gear, a trim wheel that spins like itís on crack but still takes inordinate amounts of time to move from stop to stop, the STS system... it goes on and on.

They just got lucky with the NG that the problems werenít exposed earlier.

I fly the NG, and it has a certain level of charm, but if youíve come from well designed aircraft previously, you can see it should have been retired to the scrap heap 30 years ago.

Boeing have learnt that cheapest option is never the cheapest option.
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The names of the 346 should be printed on every single Max as a tribute to them and honouring their lost lives and because of that the airplane is now safe to fly. They could print them very small inside the cabin or outside somewhere but if Boeing REALLY cared they would make sure those names are never forgotten.
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Old 19th Nov 2020, 00:43
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During the 787 introduction debacle, Joe Sutter (the original 747 designer) asked what the hell was going on at Boeing.
He wondered how a bunch of computer wizards could have made such a stuff-up and taken so long to rectify expensive errors, when decades before, his team introduced a revolutionary aircraft in record time, using slide rules!

There were inevitable issues for such a groundbreaking aircraft but they worked the problem and sorted it.

The 787 wasn’t that revolutionary but was a mess and you’d think the powers that be would’ve then learnt from their errors. However this warmed-over 1960’s rebranded Max aircraft is even less revolutionary and even more of a catastrophe!

Much like the lack of leadership/accountability being demonstrated by the outgoing US President, the heads of Boeing need to take charge like proper leaders should. They should stop passing the buck and take ownership to make sure this avoidable disaster never, ever happens again.

Poor old Joe would be rolling in his grave.
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