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16th Dec 2019, 06:57
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Posted By morno

........and the fact that the captain was at an...

........and the fact that the captain was at an altitude that he shouldn’t have been.

Admit it mate
15th Dec 2019, 07:06
Replies: 502
Views: 161,755
Posted By morno

And if only he’d checked exactly where he...

And if only he’d checked exactly where he was..... or just not descended below MSA
14th Dec 2019, 23:35
Replies: 502
Views: 161,755
Posted By morno

3 Holer, if you as a professional pilot can’t see...

3 Holer, if you as a professional pilot can’t see the clearly obvious breaches of policy, airmanship, and basic rules of IFR, you are yourself dangerous and should not be in command of any aircraft...
12th Dec 2019, 22:26
Replies: 502
Views: 161,755
Posted By morno

I think it’s more the fact that to get down...

I think it’s more the fact that to get down there, he had to descend through cloud that was already below MSA. And the fact that he didn’t confirm where he was. Two basic airmanship principles
10th Dec 2019, 09:26
Replies: 502
Views: 161,755
Posted By morno

So what you're saying is you actually have no...

So what you're saying is you actually have no idea yourself the requirements to descend below MSA, therefore because you don't know, the crew can't be at fault?
9th Dec 2019, 12:19
Replies: 502
Views: 161,755
Posted By morno

3 Holer, can you please tell me how you come to...

3 Holer, can you please tell me how you come to the conclusion that the crew were not a factor in this accident? :rolleyes:

They were the ones who at the very end, flew a perfectly good aeroplane...
7th Dec 2019, 21:37
Replies: 502
Views: 161,755
Posted By morno

Yes sorry Porter, I probably shouldn't have put...

Yes sorry Porter, I probably shouldn't have put that last sentence in. I know that there were many factors contributing to this accident, but the final line of defence was that confirmation of...
7th Dec 2019, 07:37
Replies: 502
Views: 161,755
Posted By morno

Exactly, that's the point I was trying to make...

Exactly, that's the point I was trying to make before. Just because you THINK you know where you are, doesn't mean are you, so until you KNOW, you don't descend below MSA. It's quite simple really!
6th Dec 2019, 07:43
Replies: 502
Views: 161,755
Posted By morno

I know I have the benefit of hindsight, but why...

I know I have the benefit of hindsight, but why did he not confirm exactly where he was? I know I don’t go descending below MSA’s until I know exactly where I am. Just because you think you know...
5th Dec 2019, 08:13
Replies: 502
Views: 161,755
Posted By morno

Sorry buddy, but you’re a little wrong there. I’m...

Sorry buddy, but you’re a little wrong there. I’m a current experienced airline pilot that can see the major contributing factors at play.

I apologise if you disagree because the captain was a...
5th Dec 2019, 05:01
Replies: 502
Views: 161,755
Posted By morno

But they went against policy and the basics for...

But they went against policy and the basics for descent below MSA/LSALT. How can that not be the fault of the crew?
5th Dec 2019, 03:34
Replies: 502
Views: 161,755
Posted By morno

You mean the outcome was CFIT, caused by multiple...

You mean the outcome was CFIT, caused by multiple errors made by the crew, and contributors included the change in the flight plan, the company culture, and the weather?

I’m no expert in this...
29th Nov 2019, 20:09
Replies: 502
Views: 161,755
Posted By morno

Jesus Christ, what difference is someone on an...

Jesus Christ, what difference is someone on an internet forum, who could be a 12 year old kid for all you know, blaming the Captain, going to make to you? What do you gain by this occurring?
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