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9th Jul 2020, 20:47
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Posted By Joejosh999

I recall from the movie (assume accurate) that...

I recall from the movie (assume accurate) that Sully started APU nearly immediately, and also that on QRH it was actually pretty far down the list of things to do, like 15th or 17th, such that you...
7th Jul 2020, 19:27
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Posted By Joejosh999

My question is 1) when did they realize they had...

My question is 1) when did they realize they had dual engine failure and 2) had they already put the gear back down the final time? Or did they somehow know they had no engines YET put gear down...
25th Jun 2020, 15:00
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Posted By Joejosh999

Heaven help me, but as others have suggested, I...

Heaven help me, but as others have suggested, I now wonder if this sort of half-arsed SOP is in fact quite common at PIA, and PIA chaps regularly get away with it, hence no one was too concerned...
29th May 2020, 14:47
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Posted By Joejosh999

do we not already have reports from ATC...

do we not already have reports from ATC interviews that gear was UP on approach?
28th May 2020, 20:07
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Posted By Joejosh999

thanks Grav. I’ve been wondering if PF ever...

thanks Grav. I’ve been wondering if PF ever retarded throttle at all. As you say their speed was more due to approach energy than power application though.
28th May 2020, 18:59
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Posted By Joejosh999

Given their speed over the runway, would they...

Given their speed over the runway, would they ever have gotten the “Retard” prompt?
27th May 2020, 20:20
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Posted By Joejosh999

Interesting thanks tdracer. If engines did quit...

Interesting thanks tdracer. If engines did quit in only a few seconds, assume RAT deploys?
And presume loss of thrust becomes apparent soon?

I’m just wondering when/why the Gear Down decision...
27th May 2020, 18:50
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Posted By Joejosh999

I’d also wonder when the Gear Down decision...

I’d also wonder when the Gear Down decision came...presumably before they realized engines were compromised?
And how soon might RAT have deployed?
27th May 2020, 17:54
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Posted By Joejosh999

Given their over speed at threshold, seemingly...

Given their over speed at threshold, seemingly 215knots or so, what kind of flaps would the A320 even allow them to put out? Just slats maybe?....
26th May 2020, 20:34
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Posted By Joejosh999

Not sure I trust Pakistan to turn over data to...

Not sure I trust Pakistan to turn over data to the French. It’s pretty clear the chance for their flagship airline (w military pilot) to look pretty bad is high.
26th May 2020, 14:19
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Posted By Joejosh999

You do have to wonder, if they’d tear dropped,...

You do have to wonder, if they’d tear dropped, and/or left the gear up, might they have gotten down more or less in one piece.
26th May 2020, 13:27
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Posted By Joejosh999

On the NWest overfly of MSP I think the flight...

On the NWest overfly of MSP I think the flight crew said they’d become too distracted by their iPads. IIRC the skinny was the flight attendants woke them up lol.
25th May 2020, 15:51
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Posted By Joejosh999

Are there any reports that ATC asked them to...

Are there any reports that ATC asked them to check their gear? If not, how big an anomaly is that?
24th May 2020, 20:57
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Posted By Joejosh999

Dave - only suggesting the wording is not as...

Dave - only suggesting the wording is not as clear as could be. Not going to presume to read the schematic, which does seem to combine conditions such as speed < 260 comb8ned w Gear lever Down, but...
24th May 2020, 20:31
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Posted By Joejosh999

Interesting wording on the LG “the hyd system...

Interesting wording on the LG “the hyd system remains cut off as long as the gear lever is Up” when <260 knots,
But it doesn’t say explicitly that if lever is down and speed reduces from above...
24th May 2020, 12:55
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Posted By Joejosh999

There’s mention that they might have lowered gear...

There’s mention that they might have lowered gear levers at too high a speed, such that protections did not allow gear to go down. Lever would have to be recycled and speed reduced first.

So they...
23rd May 2020, 20:37
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Posted By Joejosh999

I meant does it show wheels were never down? Or...

I meant does it show wheels were never down? Or merely that they never got weight? I.e. they were down, never landed, and upon TOGA were retracted (early) thus scuffing both engines and gear doors?
23rd May 2020, 20:18
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Posted By Joejosh999

Interesting stuff Bubba...could it just be they...

Interesting stuff Bubba...could it just be they never hit WoW though?...
23rd May 2020, 18:18
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Posted By Joejosh999

So damage to gear doors might suggest they did...

So damage to gear doors might suggest they did have gear down on approach?
23rd May 2020, 16:20
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Posted By Joejosh999

I wonder if the witness reports of “2 or 3...

I wonder if the witness reports of “2 or 3 attempts” plus the survivor noting they hit “thrice” might mean a bounced landing. Hit hard, bounce, hit again, TOGA...certainly being high and hot as they...
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