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7th Apr 2024, 23:23
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Posted By Vokes55

What a ridiculous comparison. So is a house worth...

What a ridiculous comparison. So is a house worth more as spares after the 25 year mortgage is paid off too? Does buying an aircraft outright mean it’s free, or do Jet2 still have to pay for it?
...
31st Mar 2024, 20:19
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Posted By Vokes55

Leased, owned, chartered, the result is the same...

Leased, owned, chartered, the result is the same - new aircraft are expensive.
31st Mar 2024, 19:39
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Posted By Vokes55

I don’t care. I’m merely stating that they will...

I don’t care. I’m merely stating that they will need to fly more often than the current Jet2 fleet does for the fuel savings to come anywhere near offsetting the lease/purchase costs of expensive new...
31st Mar 2024, 19:00
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Posted By Vokes55

So do you think Jet2 are getting these aircraft...

So do you think Jet2 are getting these aircraft for free? Owned or leased, they still cost a lot of money every month.
31st Mar 2024, 10:14
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Posted By Vokes55

Not to mention the cost of the aircraft itself....

Not to mention the cost of the aircraft itself. It’ll be a long time before the fuel savings of a NEO offset the increase in lease/loan costs compared to an owned and paid off aircraft.

And...
17th Jun 2023, 10:42
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Posted By Vokes55

Extra sectors for training capacity and pilot...

Extra sectors for training capacity and pilot recency, brand awareness south of the river, market share in the charter business.

The majority of all European short haul is unprofitable during the...
17th Jun 2023, 07:58
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Posted By Vokes55

A few unprofitable charter flights to keep the...

A few unprofitable charter flights to keep the fleet moving in the depths of winter is a bit different to having enough peak time slots to open a year round base of any significance.

The existing...
17th Jun 2023, 05:38
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Posted By Vokes55

And where do you expect Jet2 to get these LGW...

And where do you expect Jet2 to get these LGW slots from?
16th Jun 2023, 20:04
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Posted By Vokes55

In which case they’d be better off dragging some...

In which case they’d be better off dragging some 15-20 year old A330s out of Alice Springs or Victorville. Brand new widebodies are incredibly expensive assets to be using on short haul, where the...
16th Jun 2023, 19:48
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Posted By Vokes55

Not entirely sure where they’d fly them to. TUI...

Not entirely sure where they’d fly them to. TUI make long haul (just about) work thanks to economies of scale across the whole European outbound market, as well as owning half the hotels and cruise...
8th Feb 2023, 17:32
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Posted By Vokes55

Nonsense. Jet2 were just as badly affected as TUI...

Nonsense. Jet2 were just as badly affected as TUI (and EZY). Every weekend of the summer was a total shambles for Jet2 at BHX.

Jet2 fanboyism alive and well on Pprune.
13th Mar 2022, 11:59
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Posted By Vokes55

I’d imagine it’s simply cancelled due to a...

I’d imagine it’s simply cancelled due to a natural lack of demand. Poland still requires a negative test to enter and city breaks are recovering slower than the bucket and spade market where Jet2...
30th Dec 2021, 22:08
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Posted By Vokes55

And who exactly are the “weaker operators”? ...

And who exactly are the “weaker operators”?

Any thoughts of Jet2 doing long haul is pure cuckoo. Flying half empty aircraft across Europe is one thing, flying half empty aircraft across the...
28th Dec 2021, 13:42
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Posted By Vokes55

Oh please. You’re just as likely to be in a...

Oh please. You’re just as likely to be in a terrorist attack in Manchester or Liverpool than Egypt and Tunisia.

The FCO doesn’t advise against travel to these destinations, so they’re deemed as...
10th Oct 2021, 08:40
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Posted By Vokes55

Just don't enter the seat number. Never have,...

Just don't enter the seat number. Never have, never had a problem. The PLF is a box ticking exercise run by the department of health. The airline and border force just need to see it's been...
5th Oct 2021, 21:59
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Posted By Vokes55

Well they have 38 aircraft in their fleet today...

Well they have 38 aircraft in their fleet today that will be over 25 years old by 2026. I'd imagine the majority of these deliveries will be replacements, not for expansion.
5th Oct 2021, 21:38
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Posted By Vokes55

Who says it's for expansion?

Who says it's for expansion?
27th Jun 2021, 16:34
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Posted By Vokes55

Every sim building in the country is going “full...

Every sim building in the country is going “full tilt”. That’s what happens when there are so few pilots flying they need simulator sessions just to stay current.

I too have spoken to friends at...
19th May 2021, 21:12
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Posted By Vokes55

HH6702 Negative, Ryanair had 13 people on...

HH6702

Negative, Ryanair had 13 people on one flight between Faro and the U.K., on the day after overseas travel was made legal. There wouldn’t have been many people coming home after one day, nor...
19th May 2021, 07:24
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Posted By Vokes55

excrab The problem is that the government...

excrab

The problem is that the government aren’t going to make it very clear where they can fly in June either, until about a week before if they’re lucky. So it’s the same problem as everyone...
12th Apr 2021, 17:17
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Posted By Vokes55

pug And I'm the troll? It doesn't take an...

pug

And I'm the troll? It doesn't take an expert to know that an airline needs revenue to stay in business. Going by your (and others) rhetoric, they may as well cancel the entire Summer and come...
12th Apr 2021, 16:27
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Posted By Vokes55

Wow. So many nibbles from so many "experts" with...

Wow. So many nibbles from so many "experts" with their red and silver tinted glasses. I guess time will tell.

I would advise that some people read up on how the furlough scheme works though (hint:...
12th Apr 2021, 14:51
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Posted By Vokes55

pug I think you’re living in a dream land....

pug

I think you’re living in a dream land. Jet2 won’t have flown a paying customer for almost 6 months. Unless they really do have a magic money tree, they won’t survive without a strong summer or...
12th Apr 2021, 13:46
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Posted By Vokes55

Because the government have announced a framework...

Because the government have announced a framework to restart travel, potentially from 17th May. A company doesn’t have to bring its entire workforce off furlough, entire fleet from storage in order...
12th Apr 2021, 09:47
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Posted By Vokes55

Bam Thwok Not sure what your point is there,...

Bam Thwok

Not sure what your point is there, Jet2 missed an important week of revenue in half term by cancelling their Canaries flights prematurely. By the time Jet2 had managed to scramble...
12th Apr 2021, 00:07
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Posted By Vokes55

Jet2 could cancel everything until 2024 and put...

Jet2 could cancel everything until 2024 and put all of their staff on unpaid leave until then and people on this forum would still say they’re “making a good call” or “doing the right thing”. The...
9th Apr 2021, 14:06
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Posted By Vokes55

GrahamK But not everyone who travels is a...

GrahamK

But not everyone who travels is a family of 4, and many could absorb the costs of a PCR tests. There’s also plenty of time for the policy to change, with pressure from the industry, to...
9th Apr 2021, 12:41
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Posted By Vokes55

Not sure customers with flights or holidays...

Not sure customers with flights or holidays booked in June to places like Malta, Madeira or the Algarve would agree they’ve “seen sense”.

More of a knee jerk reaction to send a message of...
14th Jan 2021, 05:32
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Posted By Vokes55

You are aware that any airline can put their...

You are aware that any airline can put their entire staff on furlough and unfurlough them at 24 hours notice for as little as one day, right? Do you think every airline that hasn’t cancelled flights...
12th Jan 2021, 19:16
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Posted By Vokes55

Knew I’d get a few nibbles from the Jet2 fan...

Knew I’d get a few nibbles from the Jet2 fan club.

So when we get to March 1st and very few people are dying because of

1. 8-10 weeks of lockdown depending on which part of the country you’re...
12th Jan 2021, 16:38
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Posted By Vokes55

Daft. I think if I had a holiday booked in...

Daft.

I think if I had a holiday booked in March, I’d be taking that refund and giving it straight to a competitor. Did they not learn from the October half term Canaries debacle?
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