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Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
16th Dec 2019, 07:19
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

In my opinion therefore, the single dominant and...

In my opinion therefore, the single dominant and effective cause of the disaster was the mistake made by those airline officials who programmed the aircraft to fly directly at Mt Erebus and omitted...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
16th Dec 2019, 06:27
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

Megan, This is what caused the accident,...

Megan,

This is what caused the accident, Justice Mahon, and then our Prime Minister said it so it must be true.

"It found the airline reset the plane's navigation systems without telling the...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
16th Dec 2019, 02:32
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

It found the airline reset the plane's navigation...

It found the airline reset the plane's navigation systems without telling the pilots, inadvertently setting the aircraft on a collision course with the side of the mountain"

Obviously you are...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
15th Dec 2019, 23:34
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

Are you saying you believe the statement ?? ...

Are you saying you believe the statement ??

"It found the airline reset the plane's navigation systems without telling the pilots, inadvertently setting the aircraft on a collision course with the...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
15th Dec 2019, 22:38
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

This is part of her statement, and if you believe...

This is part of her statement, and if you believe the Nav Dept set the aeroplane on a collision course with the side of the mountain, and the crew sitting in the sharp end could do nothing about it,...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
15th Dec 2019, 19:56
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

I would think it is because the simple...

I would think it is because the simple explanation that the statement by Mahon that the flight was aimed at Mt Erebus by a mistake in the Nav Dept is just so easy to swallow. The general public, and...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
15th Dec 2019, 19:27
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

Once again, Justice Mahon was not an Accident...

Once again, Justice Mahon was not an Accident Investigator, it was a legal opinion, it could not be appealed. Following is what his peers thought of his findings.

And 36 years ago this was the...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
15th Dec 2019, 07:10
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

"Yep, they sure did but with one omission,...

"Yep, they sure did but with one omission, changing the final way point (so as the track change flew directly over Erebus)"

And once again that was sloppy on the nav dept, but it was not the...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
15th Dec 2019, 04:54
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

" It's all part of the prevailing corporate...

" It's all part of the prevailing corporate culture."

The prevailing corporate culture sent how many flights down to the ice and came back with no problem? bending the rules without doubt,...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
15th Dec 2019, 03:06
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

"Probable cause: The probable cause of this...

"Probable cause: The probable cause of this accident was the decision of the captain to continue the flight at low level toward an area of poor surface and horizon definition when the crew was not...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
15th Dec 2019, 00:42
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

" Justice Mahon disputes the “absoluteness” of...

" Justice Mahon disputes the “absoluteness” of the minimums." and by this statement, and your acceptance of it, really brings into.play morno's question, "IF you are a professional pilot"
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
14th Dec 2019, 20:02
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

" What "unforced errors" are you talking about?...

" What "unforced errors" are you talking about? This is not a tennis match we are debating"

They crashed into a mountain that they knew was there, in a perfectly serviceable aeroplane with the...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
13th Dec 2019, 08:54
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

"I'm gaining a great deal of insight and paying a...

"I'm gaining a great deal of insight and paying a great deal of respect to the lessons learn't from this. Empathy to anyone who was and still are affected by this, it's not my intent to pick scabs...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
13th Dec 2019, 05:33
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

" You could go down to 500 feet in DC10, quite...

" You could go down to 500 feet in DC10, quite safely", Granted, but not with a load of Pax on a sightseeing flight,
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
13th Dec 2019, 03:22
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

Yes, granted, but who would NZC AA . discipline?...

Yes, granted, but who would NZC AA . discipline? the Company or the captains, who were all senior members of NZALPA? and remember a very senior member of ALPA, who orchestrated a lot of the...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
13th Dec 2019, 01:27
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

I would think because as all but one flight had...

I would think because as all but one flight had approached Antarctica in brilliantly clear conditions and the final letdown was entirely VFR with no need for instrument cloud break procedures.

...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
13th Dec 2019, 00:16
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

" There is no evidence that he descended through...

" There is no evidence that he descended through cloud, in fact there is no evidence that he didn't maintain VMC at all times"

And there is no evidence that he did. I use he rather than they...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
12th Dec 2019, 23:38
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

Para 377 "Chief...

Para 377 "Chief Footstool Chippendale during their loaded bullets"

Cannot really decipher that one, but if the intent is what I think it is, then it is utter...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
12th Dec 2019, 21:42
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

" This crew did something none of the other crews...

" This crew did something none of the other crews did - they hit the ground" Exactly
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
12th Dec 2019, 06:47
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

Still using these licences are you?"? Licence...

Still using these licences are you?"? Licence Type (eg CPL. Pilots only)HR/MC or is that just a weak joke???


Light Rigid (LR)
Medium Rigid (MR)
Heavy Rigid (HR)
Heavy Combination (HC)
Multi...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
12th Dec 2019, 06:12
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

The only thing you have ever stated about the...

The only thing you have ever stated about the Appeal Court finding and backed up by the Privy Council is that they agreed with Mahon finding. Those findings printed above do not look like any sort of...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
12th Dec 2019, 02:05
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

I am afraid you will be proven correct re the...

I am afraid you will be proven correct re the kerfuffle that will arise out of the White Island tragedy. The lawyers will be rubbing their hands together in glee. Already being printed who will be...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
12th Dec 2019, 01:24
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

Good read. but to get back to the cause of Erebus...

Good read. but to get back to the cause of Erebus tragedy. There has been much written about the Airlines transgression. But the following from History of New Zealand Antarctic Research Programme...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
12th Dec 2019, 00:33
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

"I think most of us realised that... some picky...

"I think most of us realised that... some picky individuals might have missed it though.." No never missed it,, "But only the facts. Maam" sure I never hurt Paragraph 377 feelings by picking up that...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
12th Dec 2019, 00:02
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

There has been much said about the lack of...

There has been much said about the lack of training for the Captains of these Antarctic flights. But they were highly qualified professionals in their own fields. Who were Justice Mahon's technical...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Dec 2019, 23:23
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

From para 377 ...

From para 377 " Again, comparing the circumstances of the two 747 accidents - Erebus and Tenerife is laughable."

And calling those...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Dec 2019, 18:57
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

". Other Captains had descended below the...

". Other Captains had descended below the minimum, why would that be when they would not dream of doing so in other circumstances??

Would that have been because they knew where they were, rather...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Dec 2019, 07:36
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

"at the very least was that conditions were far...

"at the very least was that conditions were far from ideal for either sightseeing or VFR flying of a large commercial jet in general'

Were they ever VFR?? I would have thought that requires...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Dec 2019, 04:04
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

And it was a mandatory minimum of 20km

And it was a mandatory minimum of 20km
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Dec 2019, 03:14
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

From Chippindale report ...

From Chippindale report "Had the crew followed their stated intention to descend on a heading of 180° grid they would have increased their safety...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Dec 2019, 01:23
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

Once again from the John King publication ...

Once again from the John King publication "Various unidentified people started to voice unease at the situation, but discussion about the direction to climb away was interrupted by the GPWS...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Dec 2019, 00:38
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

And who were the captains who were disregarding...

And who were the captains who were disregarding SOP"s. Could it be that they were all NZALPA members? and who was it that Mahon was using for his technical expertise and knowledge of what went on...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
10th Dec 2019, 21:50
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

'And as I raised with you last week for that all...

'And as I raised with you last week for that all he had a strip chart that is hardly the tool for visual navigation"

The point I was.making, was that he was reported to have studied all the...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
10th Dec 2019, 18:14
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

"Captain Collins spent sometime plotting the...

"Captain Collins spent sometime plotting the previous tracks, which led past Erebus instead of right into it, so that he had a mental picture of where he would be."

Yes. that point was stressed by...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
10th Dec 2019, 06:14
Replies: 502
Views: 161,725
Posted By prospector

And that is an answer to specific questions?? ...

And that is an answer to specific questions?? Thank you, means absolutely nothing.
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