Signing a NPPL Microlight rating by experience?
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Signing a NPPL Microlight rating by experience?
I'm an FI(A) and have been asked to sign someones NPPL Microlight rating by experience.
I did do a >1hr instructional flight with this person within the past 24 months in a 3 Axis microlight.
He has completed the hours requirements.
I'm I legal to sign off his rating by experience?
Or must it be a BMAA examiner?
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I did do a >1hr instructional flight with this person within the past 24 months in a 3 Axis microlight.
He has completed the hours requirements.
I'm I legal to sign off his rating by experience?
Or must it be a BMAA examiner?
Thanks
Presumably you are referring to FCL.945 privileges however; they are limited to EASA Class ratings for the SEP and TMG. The Licence must be signed by an appropriately qualified Examiner.
The CAA has permitted SEP revalidation by experience to be signed in a UK issued licence by an examiner holding a valid UK issued Part-FCL examiner certificate or a Flight Instructor with the privileges of FCL.945.
The R Examiner disappeard some time ago. EASA introduced FCL.945 to allow FIs to revalidate SEP and TMG by experience provided the endorsement is in their licence. Can't find any reference to R Examiners in any current CAA documents. The latest Flight Examiners handbook seems to be missing Suppliment S1 which should refer to Examining for National Licences, Ratings and Authorisations.
Interesting Whopity, thanks. I have been included on a CAA list of R Examiners in my role as an LAA Coach and understood this was to allow me to revalidate national licences.
Are you thinking that an FCL 945 authorisation is good for national licences as well as EASA ones?
[Licencing does seem to be rather more complicated than is absolutely necessary!!]
Are you thinking that an FCL 945 authorisation is good for national licences as well as EASA ones?
[Licencing does seem to be rather more complicated than is absolutely necessary!!]
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Are you thinking that an FCL 945 authorisation is good for national licences as well as EASA ones?
I've spent hours of my day searching various publications after I was asked by an NPPL holder to sign his licence for re-validation by experience.
When I started instructing >30yrs ago the licencing rules were so simple .... its now an appalling mish mash of licence types,
Hopefully when we leave EASA things might improve for the better with a simplified system.
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The CAA have previously confirmed that ANO Article 168 renders a UK-issued Flight Instructor certificate with FCL.945 privileges eligible to sign for revalidation of class ratings in national licences for those ratings which they can instruct. Therefore a FI with FCL.945 privileges can sign for class rating revalidation of a microlight class rating where they have conducted the associated training flight and the revalidation requirements are met.
R Examiner authorisations are still issued by the UK CAA and are applicable to national licences. Use of this might be required for cases where instructors have not flown with the pilot or a training flight is not required (5/13). R Examiners hold the appropriate authorisation to sign for revalidation by experience of class ratings in national licences where authorisations typically specify which class ratings the individual can sign for.
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R Examiner authorisations are still issued by the UK CAA and are applicable to national licences. Use of this might be required for cases where instructors have not flown with the pilot or a training flight is not required (5/13). R Examiners hold the appropriate authorisation to sign for revalidation by experience of class ratings in national licences where authorisations typically specify which class ratings the individual can sign for.
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The CAA have previously confirmed that ANO Article 168 renders a UK-issued Flight Instructor certificate with FCL.945 privileges eligible to sign for revalidation of class ratings in national licences for those ratings which they can instruct. Therefore a FI with FCL.945 privileges can sign for class rating revalidation of a microlight class rating where they have conducted the associated training flight and the revalidation requirements are met.
It really is 'send three and fourpence...' I have a current R Examiner authorisation issued by CAA under the umbrella of the LAA coaching scheme, and I have an FCL.945 authorisation (as I'm sure most instructors do nowadays).
Ifitaint - thanks for your clarification. So, with the R Examiner authorisation I can revalidate a national licence even if I wasn't the instructor who the pilot flew with; is that correct? It sounds reasonable, but that has long-since stopped being a criteria...
Ifitaint - thanks for your clarification. So, with the R Examiner authorisation I can revalidate a national licence even if I wasn't the instructor who the pilot flew with; is that correct? It sounds reasonable, but that has long-since stopped being a criteria...
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What about an FI without CPL TK?
Would I be correct in thinking that as they have FCL.905 and not FCL.945 privileges they can't sign for say an EASA SEP rating? They could however sign for an SSEA rating on an NPPL and if they had R examiner privileges they could sign an SEP rating on a UK PPL?
Would I be correct in thinking that as they have FCL.905 and not FCL.945 privileges they can't sign for say an EASA SEP rating? They could however sign for an SSEA rating on an NPPL and if they had R examiner privileges they could sign an SEP rating on a UK PPL?
What about an FI without CPL TK?
There are a lot of FIs without CPL TK who enjoy grandfather status and have full FI privileges; not to be confused with LAPL FIs who are limited to giving instruction for the LAPL only. As there is nothing to sign in a LAPL they cannot get 945 privileges. However; if they are also a CRI then they can get 945 privileges. Another load of nonsense.
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Problem. At least one ATO with privileges to instruct for the FI claims that a LAPL FI can sign a SEP rating on an EASA PPL.
Their logic being that the the holder of a PPL without CPL TK who holds an FI rating the Remarks and Restrictions on the Licence states "FCL 905.FI applies as in /(a)/(b)/For LAPL(A) only”
Then the Yellowish sheet - FCL.905.FI - Flight Instructor Privileges and conditions. Quick Reference says
(a) Instruction towards a PPL, SPL, BPL and LAPL ....,...
(b) Instruction towards class and type rating for single pilot, single engine aircraft, expect for high performance .......,
Therefore they can teach for and sign for revalidation of SEP ratings
Their logic being that the the holder of a PPL without CPL TK who holds an FI rating the Remarks and Restrictions on the Licence states "FCL 905.FI applies as in /(a)/(b)/For LAPL(A) only”
Then the Yellowish sheet - FCL.905.FI - Flight Instructor Privileges and conditions. Quick Reference says
(a) Instruction towards a PPL, SPL, BPL and LAPL ....,...
(b) Instruction towards class and type rating for single pilot, single engine aircraft, expect for high performance .......,
Therefore they can teach for and sign for revalidation of SEP ratings
At least one ATO with privileges to instruct for the FI claims that a LAPL FI can sign a SEP rating on an EASA PPL.