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Old 4th Jun 2022, 13:24
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
So apart from the TUI base, the long standing Wizz routes to Eastern Europe, regular widebody freight flights and miscellanious operators such as NPAS and 2Excel, the airport is doomed?
The now current Wizz offering to eastern Europe isnt as expansive as it was five years ago.

TUI will have a limit to their offering. Realistically will it ever grow larger than it is today? I'd wager no, but I could be wrong

Other than that, there's no one left in terms of passenger offering, no one will touch the place

18 cargo flights operated last month according to the stats. Plus the general aviation.

What really gets me is that Peel borrowed the money for the terminal extension from the local authorities as it was needed to get the Wizz base. What a waste that has been.


​​​​​​Has been mentioned elsewhere but don't forget the DSA MD quit out of the blue a couple of weeks ago. I'm guessing everything is linked.
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Old 4th Jun 2022, 17:12
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Radio Sheffieldjust ran a piece on the situation this afternoon.

DSA said they won't be commenting any further on the situation - and all they have said is that they weren't aware of Wizz pulling out until it was in the media.

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Old 4th Jun 2022, 17:59
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Sad act

What a sad life Timmy must have. People have had to read your constant negative dribble for years now and it really is tiresome, what is your agenda?? Bizarre.
This announcement from Wizz is going to cost people their jobs and the first thing you think is go on to an Internet forum to gloat and say I told you so. What a low life.

I expect this is down to WizzUK focussing on Gatwick and having serious issues in recruitment. They’ll be back IMO. They can’t afford to allow Gatwick to fail and know they can come
back to DSA when it suits them, no doubt it’s why the airport are keeping quiet.

Flybe didn’t fail at DSA, the numbers were always good.
The airport is a different animal to what it was when EasyJet were here many years ago.

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Old 4th Jun 2022, 21:09
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Timmy. your valued and informative comments over the years have been very much appreciated. Your local knowledge and understanding helps enormously.
All of us including airports and airlines have to live in the real world and that may mean cutting back services. If WizzAir is not getting the passenger numbers it needs
there need to be changes------ it happens all the time.
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Old 4th Jun 2022, 22:49
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Flybe were at DSA only because the airport was paying them to be there. Several routes including CDG were a total disaster area with yields never off the floor.
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Old 4th Jun 2022, 23:34
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe View Post
This will just have been financial data driven… bolster the other UK ops by trimming least profitable or lowest forward bookings. I don’t think theres any more to it than that.
Is doing it with a week's notice for the passengers, the airport and their own employees (...) in the middle of the summer season the way it's supposed to be done when it's data driven? It's not a prudent business action, it's panic driven to avoid a total breakdown (whether in Doncaster or in Gatwick/Luton). And they are still short sighted enough to think that the crew will follow them to LGW/LTN after being treated like that.
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Old 5th Jun 2022, 12:18
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There's a rumour on Facebook the airport already have someone lined up to replace some of the lost Wizz fligjts.

We will wait and see
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Old 5th Jun 2022, 12:59
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I agree flights to Malaga and Larnaca are cancelled today, but are you sure G-WUKC has been flown out of DSA ?
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Old 5th Jun 2022, 17:40
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 View Post
I agree flights to Malaga and Larnaca are cancelled today, but are you sure G-WUKC has been flown out of DSA ?
FR24 shows ‘KC on the ground at Doncaster as at 17:30 today (5/6/22)..
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Has been for the last 15 hours…….
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Old 5th Jun 2022, 18:27
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This tweet says flights are only suspended but refers to all flights....
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Old 6th Jun 2022, 02:09
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I did see some social media posts that the crew found out about the base closure when some passengers got on for their flight.

At that point, the crew asked them to deboard and that flight ended up being canceled. I wonder if enough crew has walked that they cannot run a flight. Given that they will be security cleared, one would imagine that in the current climate they are in a good position to pick up a new post, without commuting down south.
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Old 6th Jun 2022, 07:38
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Originally Posted by davidjpowell View Post
I did see some social media posts that the crew found out about the base closure when some passengers got on for their flight.

At that point, the crew asked them to deboard and that flight ended up being canceled. I wonder if enough crew has walked that they cannot run a flight. Given that they will be security cleared, one would imagine that in the current climate they are in a good position to pick up a new post, without commuting down south.
this mornings Ibiza flight flew so presumably they’ve sorted whatever grounded the plane yesterday.
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Old 6th Jun 2022, 10:32
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I think that the only WizzUK flight this morning was to Alicante. Scheduled Dep. time 05.35, Actual Dep. time 06.39. It was a full flight & will be a full return. Its their last ALC flight from DSA.
Ibiza flight was TUI.
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Old 6th Jun 2022, 12:01
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Wizz insisting the airport were given prior notice to them closing the base. Given the DSA Airport MD quit suddenly a week or two ago, i'm inclined to believe Wizz on this ocassion.

You would have thought DSA would have made some kind of statement, however if the blame is in their corner, there isn't much for them to say.
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Old 6th Jun 2022, 12:12
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Wizz have repeated the following comment, which is all we got to go on. I'd would be surprised if it hasn't been cleared by lawyers, so what exactly does it mean?

This decision is unfortunately a result of Doncaster Sheffield Airport indicating that it is unable to guarantee the terms of its commercial agreement with Wizz
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Originally Posted by TimmyW View Post
Wizz insisting the airport were given prior notice to them closing the base. Given the DSA Airport MD quit suddenly a week or two ago, i'm inclined to believe Wizz on this ocassion.
You would have thought DSA would have made some kind of statement, however if the blame is in their corner, there isn't much for them to say.
They told the airport three weeks ago but not their own employees and their own passengers? Or they told everyone on Saturday with a week's notice? I don't know which is worse. Then why did they cancel 3 out of 5 flights (even a WAH one) yesterday? Because of the commercial agreement with the airport or because they are in shambles? If the problem is "staff shortages within air traffic control and at airports" as they claim in their statement then how on earth closing a base will "stabilize their operations". It will have zero effect on staffing of ATC/airports anywhere. The only way they can stabilize their operations with closures is to move their own crew elsewhere to plaster the wholes caused by crew shortage. That's the thruth, any way they slice it.
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Old 6th Jun 2022, 16:16
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Unaffected flights include flights from Cluj, Gdansk, Krakow, Katowice, Otopeni, Poznan, Vilnius, Warsaw and Wroclaw to Doncaster Sheffield Airport.
So if the airport is unable to guarantee the terms of its commercial agreement with Wizz why are these flights still running apart from not wanting to upset its Eastern European passengers?

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So if the airport is unable to guarantee the terms of its commercial agreement with Wizz why are these flights still running apart from not wanting to upset its Eastern European passengers?
Does DSA grant different terms/conditions to a UK airline (Wizz UK) with G-reg aircraft based at DSA, compared to a non-UK airline (Wizz Hungary) with non-UK registered that aircraft not based at DSA ? What is the scope of the commercial terms that are being varied ? There's plenty of opportunity for someone to find legal niceties to justify whatever they want
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Legally speaking there are two different airlines involved, but I suspect it is the based operation that is affected and DSA are not saying much so as to not impact the East European operation.

At a guess, Wizz UK would get further concessions such as reduced rates if it reached certain numbers, hasn't delivered and the arguement is around any exclusions/force majuere etc?
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