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Old 17th Jan 2022, 21:47
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Not able to monitor this one from today - so, time to reveal the Brand JB-2.

OPEN HOUSE.

https://aeropedia.com.au/content/brand-jb-2/
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Old 17th Jan 2022, 21:49
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I had no idea what it was, but I bet it made an interesting noise in flight!
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Old 17th Jan 2022, 23:18
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Originally Posted by India Four Two
I had no idea what it was, but I bet it made an interesting noise in flight!
I was also not able to find it.
Even with the hints 1995 and Australian.
With pronounced distortions at 90,180 and 270 degrees and a two bladed propeller the sound must indeed have been distinctive.

I now found some more about it:
Aeropedia
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Old 18th Jan 2022, 21:00
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Just came across this still-born project of which I had never previously heard... I'll put it up as a quickie as I expect somebody will know!




edit: I've a got a very early start on Thursday, so may hit the sack before the 24hr wait is up tomorrow evening and will be on limited access over the next few days, so if anyone calls it correctly after 10pm tomorrow, please feel free to carry on without me!

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Old 18th Jan 2022, 22:51
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People gonna be even more amazed when they learn who designed it!
And yet more astounded to learn who all-but copied it some years later.
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Old 19th Jan 2022, 10:00
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Originally Posted by Self loading bear
I was also not able to find it.
Even with the hints 1995 and Australian.
With pronounced distortions at 90,180 and 270 degrees and a two bladed propeller the sound must indeed have been distinctive.

I now found some more about it:
Aeropedia
Thanks SLB. I am intrigued to know how the rear fuselage was attached to the main structure.
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Old 19th Jan 2022, 10:04
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Originally Posted by MReyn24050
Thanks SLB. I am intrigued to know how the rear fuselage was attached to the main structure.
Me Too .! It seems nonsensical from the impression given by the photography/
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Old 19th Jan 2022, 13:44
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Why would that be a puzzle? One of the supporting webs is clearly visible, there will be more. No different to an Edgely Optica.
I'm intrigued to know how the engines were to be accessed for service. There were quite a lot of them, it must have been one heck of a crush in there!
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Old 19th Jan 2022, 14:18
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Originally Posted by meleagertoo
Why would that be a puzzle? One of the supporting webs is clearly visible, there will be more. No different to an Edgely Optica.
The Edgley Optica was totally different it was a twin tail boom aircraft.
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Old 19th Jan 2022, 14:41
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It still had a fuselage separated from the powerplant and empennage by an annular ring.
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Old 19th Jan 2022, 18:11
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I have seen this recently, but I cannot remember where.
I recall 5 or 6 engines?
I can think of various compressor stall issues when upper engine intakes are blinded at take-off angles.
or the lieu side intakes at higher slide slip angled
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Old 19th Jan 2022, 19:09
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Meleager, I think MReyn is referring to the previous mystery picture - the type is rather similar to those Austrian light aircraft from the 1960s whose name escapes me.

Self Loading Bear, five Nenes I think it was.
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Old 19th Jan 2022, 23:10
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Originally Posted by treadigraph
Meleager, I think MReyn is referring to the previous mystery picture - the type is rather similar to those Austrian light aircraft from the 1960s whose name escapes me.

Self Loading Bear, five Nenes I think it was.
You aren't thinking of the Fanliner and Fantrainer from Rhein Flugzeugbau?
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Old 20th Jan 2022, 04:48
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No, Brditschka's line of light aircraft...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brditschka_HB-3
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Old 20th Jan 2022, 12:27
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Originally Posted by treadigraph
No, Brditschka's line of light aircraft...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brditschka_HB-3
Thanks treadigraph for the link
Looking at the Brand JB-2 photograph again it is possible to make out the lower link and one assumes the top link is via the propeller hub in a similar fashion to the HB Brditschka HB 23 2400. The HB design is much more substantial.

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Old 21st Jan 2022, 09:41
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Looking sat the JB-2, with such a structural arrangement,one wonders about the bending moments with rudder deflections, not to mention fatigue stress at the prop hub.
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Old 21st Jan 2022, 18:07
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Originally Posted by treadigraph

Treadigraph,

Either everybody is waiting on your return, or they do not have anything to post themselves.
Anyway I found back Kurt Tank’s Argentinian project IA36 Condor.
Do we really have used all real flying aircraft already?
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Old 22nd Jan 2022, 08:10
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I wasn't aware threads is just for completed and flown aircraft, thought it was an interesting if flawed design,.of which I had never heard. Well done for finding it and your control...

Originally Posted by meleagertoo
And yet more astounded to learn who all-but copied it some years later.
Who was that and what was the design?
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Old 22nd Jan 2022, 10:07
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Originally Posted by treadigraph
I wasn't aware threads is just for completed and flown aircraft, thought it was an interesting if flawed design,.of which I had never heard. Well done for finding it and your control...
Thank you Treadi,

Well the rules are not written in stone. And if I would have found it inappropriate I would not have answered it.
This was a clearly recognizable design in an advanced stage and windtunnel tests have been done.

I just think we must not let ourselves slip that we are going to post all garden shed made flip-flap helicopter fabrications which couldn’t hop over the chicken fence. (exaggerated, but I am sure all posters will get the drift)
Onwards and upwards.

Now this:


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Old 22nd Jan 2022, 10:28
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Pobjoy engines I think, but it's not a British aeroplane. Based on SLB's location I'll suggest it's Dutch (or Dutch colonial).
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