Jobs for non EU cadet pilots.

[Varman]

Hi Everyone,

​​​​​​Just like this thread started as a first time post for someone, this is my first post here. I'd like to know the status of the EU market for a non EU person at the moment.

​​​​​I'm from India, and I'm set to do an integrated ATPL course at an academy "FlyBy Aviation Academy" from Spain. After the completion of the course I'll have a CPL with approx 240 hrs flight time, with no IR.

​​​​​I'd like to work in EU for a regional airline to get my ATPL unfrozen and to build hours. Is there a provision that allows me to do that? Or how hard is it to land a job in an airline as a foreign fresher? Is it doable or am I expecting too much? Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks all.

[Nikker]

If you don't have work permit in EU it is not possible. Otherwise this thread wouldn't exist.

[Solenoid]

There is thousands of European pilots unemployed right now, plus you cannot work in the EU without a citizenship or working permit, so the market for a non EU person is non existent at the moment.

Also I will recommend you to do the IR course as it is one of the requirements for most airlines when they hire.

[Varman]

Nikker
Yes I understand. I was asking as to the difficulty of getting one down the line when I complete my training. It's in about 15 months.

[Varman]

SolenoidHi, Yeah IR isn't included in the course that they're offering, but they do have a APS MCC crew standard certification, that might help initially? Also, I'm just starting, and the course is about 14 months long. I was hoping the industry will be a lot different then. Maybe then if some airline considers a non EU National with a EASA license, will getting a work visa be that difficult still?

[Globally Challenged]

No work visa = no work

No IR = VFR only … not many airlines work that way

change your plans and save your money.

[inabw]

Hi Dude: IR it's mandatory in order to be considered for an airline Pilot position. Also VFR operations conducted in some companies (es: TMA) require an IR rating as requirement to apply for.

[a5in_the_sim]

Crikey……is it even possible to get a frozen ATPL without an IR?

[Banana Joe]

I am quite sure the training course in that Spanish school includes an IR. The poster needs to read carefully.

[nomilk]

A work visa would just let you work out of one country, so not very attractive for an airline.

[rudestuff]

Varman you need to look very carefully at what's being offered, it sounds very fishy to me.

1. There is no such thing as a frozen ATPL without an IR.
2. An integrated ATPL course is less than 200 hours - that's the whole point of integrated.
3. I have no idea what you'd be doing that would lead to 240 hours with no IR.
4. Any modular school will give you a CPL/IR with 200 hours for half the price.

​​​​​​More hours won't get you a job, unless those hours are on type, so an airline will look at 200/240/1000 hours exactly the same. As for getting a job, it's pretty unlikely even with the right to live and work. You'd have better luck in the US, where you can train and work as an instructor for a few years.

[gulliBell]

I reckon if the OP is from India and he has that sort of coin to blow on flight training, instead he could live in India like a King for a very long time. The piloting caper for new pilots is a mugs game I reckon. Skip the flying training idea and live like a King instead,

[Solenoid]

Hi Varman, In order to find a job with an airline you need IR and MCC course.
Also, not a single European airline will sponsor a working VISA as there is always plenty of European pilots available.