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Of note, the QLZ and POW don’t have fan tails or an engine test area either, but are still considered long-range blue water carriers….
https://qr.ae/psRYtV
As it seems, this is one of the clearest recent images of the PLANS-18 „Fujian“ after being in the water again since 14th February.
The most obvious question for this angle is yet again what sort of facilities, if any Fujian has to test aircraft engines onboard. There may not be any, pointing to the possibility that the carrier is primarily intended for operations not too far abroad. Pure guessing of course.
To illustrate what I am referring to, here you see the related fitting (door and sponson) on Nimitz CVN. The area in question is the sponson carrying the writing "Harry S Truman" and the opening above it on the first image.
https://qr.ae/psRYtV
As it seems, this is one of the clearest recent images of the PLANS-18 „Fujian“ after being in the water again since 14th February.
The most obvious question for this angle is yet again what sort of facilities, if any Fujian has to test aircraft engines onboard. There may not be any, pointing to the possibility that the carrier is primarily intended for operations not too far abroad. Pure guessing of course.
To illustrate what I am referring to, here you see the related fitting (door and sponson) on Nimitz CVN. The area in question is the sponson carrying the writing "Harry S Truman" and the opening above it on the first image.
Of note, the QLZ and POW don’t have fan tails or an engine test area either, but are still considered long-range blue water carriers….
https://qr.ae/psRYtV
As it seems, this is one of the clearest recent images of the PLANS-18 „Fujian“ after being in the water again since 14th February.
The most obvious question for this angle is yet again what sort of facilities, if any Fujian has to test aircraft engines onboard. There may not be any, pointing to the possibility that the carrier is primarily intended for operations not too far abroad. Pure guessing of course.
To illustrate what I am referring to, here you see the related fitting (door and sponson) on Nimitz CVN. The area in question is the sponson carrying the writing "Harry S Truman" and the opening above it on the first image.
https://qr.ae/psRYtV
As it seems, this is one of the clearest recent images of the PLANS-18 „Fujian“ after being in the water again since 14th February.
The most obvious question for this angle is yet again what sort of facilities, if any Fujian has to test aircraft engines onboard. There may not be any, pointing to the possibility that the carrier is primarily intended for operations not too far abroad. Pure guessing of course.
To illustrate what I am referring to, here you see the related fitting (door and sponson) on Nimitz CVN. The area in question is the sponson carrying the writing "Harry S Truman" and the opening above it on the first image.
Its also possible that they're assuming their engines will be so reliable they'll get minimal use out of such a facility...(ho ho ho) or that they'll be delivered by the engine OEM via magical COD (ho ho ho again).
To be fair, it may be that the engine test facility is a legacy holdover from previous engines - I'd suspect frequency of use depends on frequency of engine change and whether you need to do a bench test prior to strapping it into the cab and testing that, noting that full-power runs might be challenging in tie down terms!
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He does make the assumbition that the area on the stern immediately below the flight deck isn't just shielding to hide that area whilst in the dockyard
e.g. CdeG in dock
CdeG at Sea
e.g. CdeG in dock
CdeG at Sea
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https://www.twz.com/sea/deck-of-chin...rcraft-mockups
Deck Of China’s Nearly Complete Carrier Now Hosting Multiple Aircraft Mockups
The sight of mock fighters, a trainer, and an early warning and control aircraft on the Fujian gives a glimpse of its future air wing.
Deck Of China’s Nearly Complete Carrier Now Hosting Multiple Aircraft Mockups
The sight of mock fighters, a trainer, and an early warning and control aircraft on the Fujian gives a glimpse of its future air wing.
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Video report. China's New Carrier Starts Sea Trials
China's third and most advanced aircraft carrier, named Fujian, has begun sea trials.
Via TaiwanPlus News.
China's third and most advanced aircraft carrier, named Fujian, has begun sea trials.
Via TaiwanPlus News.
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Chinese Aircraft Carrier Fujian Leaves for First Set of Sea Trials - USNI News 01 May 2024 Dzirhan Mahadzir
https://news.usni.org/2024/05/01/chi...-of-sea-trials
“...In March, Yuan Huazhi, political commissar of the PLAN, told Chinese media that China would announce a fourth carrier soon and would also reveal if it would be a nuclear powered or a conventionally powered like its existing three carriers. So far no official announcement has been made....
...PLA Daily also reported that in the summer, the female trainee pilots will carry out advanced flight training which will include instrument flying, navigation, formation flying and night flying. In its 2023 recruitment announcement, PLAN stated that after two months of basic training, cadet pilots would undergo 3-4 years of flight training at the PLA Naval Aviation University before graduating for assignment, thus, at the earliest, China will have its first batch of female naval aviators in late 2026.”
https://news.usni.org/2024/05/01/chi...-of-sea-trials
“...In March, Yuan Huazhi, political commissar of the PLAN, told Chinese media that China would announce a fourth carrier soon and would also reveal if it would be a nuclear powered or a conventionally powered like its existing three carriers. So far no official announcement has been made....
...PLA Daily also reported that in the summer, the female trainee pilots will carry out advanced flight training which will include instrument flying, navigation, formation flying and night flying. In its 2023 recruitment announcement, PLAN stated that after two months of basic training, cadet pilots would undergo 3-4 years of flight training at the PLA Naval Aviation University before graduating for assignment, thus, at the earliest, China will have its first batch of female naval aviators in late 2026.”
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I thought this was an interesting question, so I compared the islands and starboard sides of the Shandong and Fujian more closely, and realized that this was indeed a interesting design of the Fujian. 1/11
Is there a reason why the island is slightly inboard from the right side of the ship on Fijian?
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Is there a reason why the island is slightly inboard from the right side of the ship on Fijian?
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An "Alaskan Highway" gives a route from the island to the aircraft park at the bow, without coming near the recovery runway or aircraft. Since the bow park Stbd is where the recovery cycle aircraft are usually heading there are pilots to get inboard and debrief and maintainers to get to the aircraft and safe/ turn/service them, at the same time the runway is in use. It makes the deck ballet choreography easier.
I believe the RN once tried an Alaskan Highway big enough for aircraft. That had theoretical benefit to the process of getting the (serviceable) aircraft back to tye aft parks readh for thr next launch cycle. It didn't work out, I think.
At 0200, with the ship darkened, the Alaskan Highway was a cold and lonely place to be whilst waiting for your pinger turnround, audible in the stbd wait for at least half an hour while Wings buggered about with another Stovie launch.
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I believe the RN once tried an Alaskan Highway big enough for aircraft. That had theoretical benefit to the process of getting the (serviceable) aircraft back to tye aft parks readh for thr next launch cycle. It didn't work out, I think.
At 0200, with the ship darkened, the Alaskan Highway was a cold and lonely place to be whilst waiting for your pinger turnround, audible in the stbd wait for at least half an hour while Wings buggered about with another Stovie launch.
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My understanding is the Alaskan Highway was only ever part of the CVA-01 design development and would likely have been abandoned if she had been built, which was sensibly not revisited for the QEs. The deck area outboard from Fujian's island is too narrow for aircraft and I suspect exists as the island is positioned directly above the machinery space whereas the deck including two lifts projects out from above the waterline.
