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Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
15th Sep 2020, 23:26
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Posted By normanton

Don't worry Ducksnuts, I'm still here - just been...

Don't worry Ducksnuts, I'm still here - just been busy working!

Is 260 on LWOP enough? I hope so, but according to the departed Tino it's not. No vaccine found in the next 6-12 months will...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
31st Aug 2020, 08:31
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Posted By normanton

Depends if it's a long term or short term...

Depends if it's a long term or short term surplus.

If it's long term (like the 747) why would they offer LWOP? All they are doing is kicking the problem x years down the track. People come back...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
30th Aug 2020, 22:41
Replies: 2,528
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Posted By normanton

It's a very good point. I suspect people taking...

It's a very good point. I suspect people taking 13 months to simply avoid CR will be making a big mistake. But that's just my crystal balling opinion.
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
30th Aug 2020, 00:29
Replies: 2,528
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Posted By normanton

Well I agree, but Wingspar's comment is just...

Well I agree, but Wingspar's comment is just stupid. The only thing saving mass redundancy right now is stand down. And yet here they are trying to justify a quote from Allan that invalidates the...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
29th Aug 2020, 23:58
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Posted By normanton

Wingspar you do know what's been happening around...

Wingspar you do know what's been happening around the world with company's that don't have stand down options? Let me fill you in - mass pilot redundancy.

Be careful what you wish for, I don't...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
27th Aug 2020, 01:22
Replies: 2,528
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Posted By normanton

Is that the company's opinion or the unions...

Is that the company's opinion or the unions opinion?

They wanted 196. They got 188. The VR was under-subscribed.
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
25th Aug 2020, 09:42
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,337
Posted By normanton

Oh for goodness sake, yes they can keep you stood...

Oh for goodness sake, yes they can keep you stood down. :ugh:
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
24th Aug 2020, 02:45
Replies: 2,528
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Posted By normanton

I agree. We haven't seen the worst of it yet.

I agree.

We haven't seen the worst of it yet.
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
23rd Aug 2020, 09:36
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Posted By normanton

Interesting Keg. I guess we can put that Facebook...

Interesting Keg. I guess we can put that Facebook news post to bed then.

For what it's worth, I asked the question about minimum 26 weeks as there is talk it doesn't apply to SO's who are still in...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
23rd Aug 2020, 06:09
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,337
Posted By normanton

Everything about this situation so far has...

Everything about this situation so far has resulted in the worst thing happening. Nothing has improved from day 1. Thinking of how the situation could further spiral out of control isn't...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
22nd Aug 2020, 10:29
Replies: 2,528
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Posted By normanton

Ahhh ok thanks. Lets hope it doesn't come to it.

Ahhh ok thanks. Lets hope it doesn't come to it.
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
22nd Aug 2020, 10:15
Replies: 2,528
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Posted By normanton

Where did you get that from Keg? (polite question)

Where did you get that from Keg? (polite question)
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
21st Aug 2020, 04:30
Replies: 2,528
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Posted By normanton

Yep agreed. The "In the news" email this...

Yep agreed.

The "In the news" email this morning says it all really.

".......the Qantas group faces more tough decisions in the weeks ahead and that there will unfortunately be more job...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
20th Aug 2020, 11:13
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,337
Posted By normanton

It's not age discrimination if it's legal...

It's not age discrimination if it's legal dragon_man. Put your money where your mouth is and take them to court. Yeah just what I thought, take the package and enjoy the retirement.
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
20th Aug 2020, 03:53
Replies: 2,528
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Posted By normanton

Ahhhh, my mistake.

Ahhhh, my mistake.
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
20th Aug 2020, 03:40
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,337
Posted By normanton

No idea dragon_man. That's really great they...

No idea dragon_man.

That's really great they can't be forced to retire. Whats even more great is they still accrue annual leave and long service leave while they wait for a 737 slot to appear...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
20th Aug 2020, 03:15
Replies: 2,528
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Posted By normanton

Are you offended by that dragon_man? There...

Are you offended by that dragon_man?

There is practically 0 international flying for the foreseeable future. He's doing everything he can to try and save cash. If you owned Qantas would you pay...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
15th Aug 2020, 21:40
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,337
Posted By normanton

Oh the great mohikan makes a triumphant return....

Oh the great mohikan makes a triumphant return. This time he’s going after Keg. Last time he was laughing SO’s would be made redundant. Before that it was the Adelaide C&T department. Who’s next?...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
12th Aug 2020, 22:02
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,337
Posted By normanton

I could be wrong here but I’m pretty sure Tino...

I could be wrong here but I’m pretty sure Tino said in a webinar that anyone the company has placed in the ER program (i.e. anyone who is 63+) is an addition to the 196.

If there is 60 pilots in...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
12th Aug 2020, 12:51
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,337
Posted By normanton

ConfigFull is just spreading fearmongering lies...

ConfigFull is just spreading fearmongering lies to try and convince people not to take LWOP. He wants a nice big fat cushin of pilots below him to take the hit. Lambs to the slaughter.

The...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
12th Aug 2020, 10:35
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,337
Posted By normanton

Nope. Lots of applications last minute. But...

Nope. Lots of applications last minute. But still, under subscribed. Next?
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
12th Aug 2020, 10:01
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,337
Posted By normanton

So what do you call that? Under subscribed? :ugh:

So what do you call that? Under subscribed? :ugh:
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
12th Aug 2020, 08:37
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,337
Posted By normanton

I’m replying to posters above :rolleyes:. I'm...

I’m replying to posters above :rolleyes:. I'm sorry if it came across aggressive.
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
12th Aug 2020, 08:18
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,337
Posted By normanton

Telfer has it spot on. 100%. What are my...

Telfer has it spot on. 100%.

What are my thoughts? As predicted an under-subscribed VR program. An under subscribed equity raising attempt by Qantas to the tune of $430m. Where’s the money going...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Aug 2020, 07:20
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,337
Posted By normanton

That's incorrect. If the surplus is 300 pilots,...

That's incorrect. If the surplus is 300 pilots, and 300 take LWOP, 300 pilots are still needed to take VR or CR. LWOP will not change that. It has been quoted and said countless times in the...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Aug 2020, 03:22
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,337
Posted By normanton

Let me edit that for you Keg.

Let me edit that for you Keg.
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Aug 2020, 02:08
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,337
Posted By normanton

Give AIPA legal a call. Ask them about standown...

Give AIPA legal a call. Ask them about standown time frames. You'll get the same answer I did.


Credit where credit is due. You're smart. Anything less than 24 months is indeed foolish.

My...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Aug 2020, 00:51
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,337
Posted By normanton

We sure will. The house always wins. You should...

We sure will. The house always wins. You should know that by now. I know which lawyers I want on my side when **** his the fan.

Enjoy your gamble. I truely pray it doesn’t bite you (or anyone...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Aug 2020, 00:46
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,337
Posted By normanton

Ok. Qantas lawyers (and I) disagree with you. ...

Ok. Qantas lawyers (and I) disagree with you.

No useful work = stand down.

The reason Jobkepepr was introduced was to avoid mass redundancy.
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Aug 2020, 00:21
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,337
Posted By normanton

But we were stood down before JobKeeper was even...

But we were stood down before JobKeeper was even a thing?

Stand down clause is in the LH EBA.

Sorry but I don’t follow...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
10th Aug 2020, 23:59
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,337
Posted By normanton

Yes you can have that in writing. It’s in the...

Yes you can have that in writing. It’s in the LWOP contract you sign.

You sound like a senior pilot squirming in your seat at the thought of all the junior crew taking LWOP and leaving you exposed.
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
10th Aug 2020, 23:40
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,337
Posted By normanton

Why can't you be stood down beyond Jobkepper? You...

Why can't you be stood down beyond Jobkepper? You WILL remain stood down until your fleet is back flying. It's legal, and AIPA don't appear willing to challenge it.


Sure. Its very simple. The...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
10th Aug 2020, 22:37
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,337
Posted By normanton

Top secret VR numbers. Qantas falling short by...

Top secret VR numbers. Qantas falling short by roughly $400m in the share raising attempt. ER package that will most likely see 63+ stay on the books. Not looking good for CR.

Secure your future....
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
2nd Aug 2020, 00:40
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,337
Posted By normanton

It's nice to think that. I kind of agree that...

It's nice to think that. I kind of agree that cost should be the main factor. Yet long time posters here forget who we are dealing with. How much money has Allan wasted on Jetstar ventures, Red Q,...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
1st Aug 2020, 23:37
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,337
Posted By normanton

Correct Slezy. If the LH EBA didn't have...

Correct Slezy.

If the LH EBA didn't have stand down provisions in the EBA, everyone would be on full base pay and we would have had 500 redundancy's 3 months ago.


Nah I get the point. Ollie...
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