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Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Feb 2021, 08:51
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

By second half of this year. Vaccine doing a...

By second half of this year.

Vaccine doing a good job, case numbers down approx 30-40% in the worst countries (with a few exceptions) in the last 21 days or so. Those numbers will only
improve as...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Feb 2021, 02:15
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

Exactly right. QF know this is coming up pretty...

Exactly right. QF know this is coming up pretty soon.
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Feb 2021, 02:14
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

That’s not how IR law works - can’t be stood down...

That’s not how IR law works - can’t be stood down indefinitely- when the border opens up QF know they have to stand everybody up. They may choose to make some redundant, but stand them up they will...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
5th Feb 2021, 07:50
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

What rubbish - pre pandemic, aviation was in a...

What rubbish - pre pandemic, aviation was in a boom time - billion dollar profits etc. Can’t tell me any court in the land would say until that returns, stand downs are justified / legal.

Getting...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
12th Dec 2020, 22:22
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

100% this. You need to understand the mechanisms...

100% this. You need to understand the mechanisms that the company use to slowly erode staff resistance to otherwise BS ideas..
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
5th Dec 2020, 05:39
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

Oh FFS what a load of rubbish - domestic crews...

Oh FFS what a load of rubbish - domestic crews will be all back on very shortly, and with positive signs for international they may well be trickling back starting early to mid next year.

The doom...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
4th Dec 2020, 07:33
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

Not permitted by those pesky IR laws...

Not permitted by those pesky IR laws...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
4th Dec 2020, 07:32
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

Great tale, but no.

Great tale, but no.
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
31st Oct 2020, 01:37
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

Exactly - the are always options.

Exactly - the are always options.
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
31st Oct 2020, 01:35
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

Exactly. Too many here who are QF don’t seem to...

Exactly. Too many here who are QF don’t seem to know much about the fantastic protections their EBA, signed during this pandemic, provides. Those that do, and still want to spread FUD, generally have...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
31st Oct 2020, 01:29
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

​​​​​​​This whole CV debacle has been going on...

​​​​​​​This whole CV debacle has been going on since March 31 for QF - 7 MONTHS. But somehow we KNOW it will be 3yrs? Remember, if you’re a CEO - talk it down, and when it goes better than “planned”...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
30th Oct 2020, 09:24
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

It’s not relevant where they could have gone -...

It’s not relevant where they could have gone - seniority is still the rule of the land.

Stand down won’t go on for years, won’t be allowed to. Have a chat with some IR lawyers and you’ll...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
29th Sep 2020, 03:07
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

Maybe to stand up and pay those that should be,...

Maybe to stand up and pay those that should be, and right size the operation - ie paying redundancy - not just having people sit around on no pay until it suits the company? Don’t know - just...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
1st Sep 2020, 08:12
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

Not sure about other departments but Longhaul...

Not sure about other departments but Longhaul Pilots were stood down effective 30th March - due to border closure being “outside of their control” and further to that having “no effective work” for...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
31st Aug 2020, 08:59
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

Incorrect Dr Dre. Stand downs were issued due to...

Incorrect Dr Dre. Stand downs were issued due to the border being shutdown - the first lot of stand downs came into effect to coincide with the closure.

Government mandated closures / restrictions...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
25th Aug 2020, 08:49
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

Except once restrictions are lifted you can’t...

Except once restrictions are lifted you can’t keep the workforce stood down.

All will be stood up, albeit on MGH.

The indefinite stand down is a good fear generator, but it’s not how the law...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
25th Aug 2020, 04:10
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

I disagree - a 50% pay cut is untenable for most....

I disagree - a 50% pay cut is untenable for most. Any scaremongering to reduce divisor as a method of serving the greater good is nonsense. If the company deem they will not carry the surplus then...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
17th Jul 2020, 22:20
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

We should re-read this post every day! They...

We should re-read this post every day!

They get it.
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
16th Jul 2020, 09:03
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

Not true, pilots are called back in seniority...

Not true, pilots are called back in seniority order - whether from LWOP
or the retrenched list.
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
13th Jul 2020, 07:44
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

I’d argue they’d be crazy to take LWOP unless...

I’d argue they’d be crazy to take LWOP unless they have another job. Scaring them into it is a cunning plan, but I don’t think they need to do that to avoid CR.

As I said before, I doubt anyone...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
12th Jul 2020, 09:06
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

If the company end up making anyone CR, it will...

If the company end up making anyone CR, it will be via the master seniority list as the IA has precedence.

Sure, those in SH wish it weren’t so, and those in LH do, but IR law doesn’t really...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
30th Jun 2020, 11:51
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

from the EBA: “The Company may deduct payments...

from the EBA:
“The Company may deduct payments from the pay of an Australian based pilot for any day the pilot cannot be usefully employed because of any strike, stoppage or other limitation of work...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
29th Jun 2020, 11:02
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

It’s not based on whether you agree, or whether...

It’s not based on whether you agree, or whether they intend to keep the fleet. The EBA is quite clear on when stand down can occur. FWA are pretty clear that in the case of an EBA covering a...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
29th Jun 2020, 07:48
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

Because stand down can’t be indefinite. At some...

Because stand down can’t be indefinite. At some point it becomes a commercial decision and the clause of stand down won’t apply. Ie When the government no longer has a travel ban / border closure in...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
25th Jun 2020, 05:42
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

Exactly right!

Exactly right!
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
25th Jun 2020, 04:51
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

What they say - and would like - is different...

What they say - and would like - is different from what they CAN do.

If there are no government restrictions imposed, the stand downs cease. Then they are dealing with a business issue - if there...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
24th Jun 2020, 08:30
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

I believe you are misunderstanding Section 16 -...

I believe you are misunderstanding Section 16 - it is purely by seniority - then by what else the redundancy sections of each SH and LH award specify. When it comes to CR there is no SH/LH...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
24th Jun 2020, 07:57
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

Add to the mix - what does the Integration...

Add to the mix - what does the Integration Agreement say?

A mess is right. A mess QF will need to sort out if it goes down the CR path.
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
24th Jun 2020, 07:55
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

Without looking at the seniority list - the last...

Without looking at the seniority list - the last couple of hundred - using your figures - would be a mix of A380/A330/787 SOs and very junior 737 FOs.

Who would fill the vacancies? Probably no...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
24th Jun 2020, 07:51
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

Thats how the EA reads - last on, first off....

Thats how the EA reads - last on, first off. Purely by seniority number.
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
20th Jun 2020, 02:47
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

Notice the advertising and how it’s targeted? ...

Notice the advertising and how it’s targeted?

Jetstar - LCC/ Leisure traveller whom is very price sensitive - $20 airfares.

Qantas - Premium / Business traveller - Triple frequent flyer points....
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
19th Jun 2020, 23:22
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

Time will tell. The business owners I deal with...

Time will tell. The business owners I deal with daily think virtual meetings are a band aid and can’t wait to send their people in face to face.

Business has and will always be done face to face -...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
14th Jun 2020, 11:40
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

Love all this pie in the sky BS you guys are...

Love all this pie in the sky BS you guys are going on about.

Redundancy and re-employment are all VERY well covered in the EBA. As is LWOP, stand down, and all the good things that go with it.
...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
13th Jun 2020, 09:36
Replies: 2,528
Views: 1,052,279
Posted By ScepticalOptomist

Sorry to disagree here. If the viability of the...

Sorry to disagree here. If the viability of the company is dependant on whether or not they are accruing leave entitlements for those stood down, we are all doomed.

I am all for reduced MGH once...
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